Deezer HiFi for Denon HEOS and Denon / Marantz HEOS built-in devices



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Thanks for sharing @UGatDeezer.

We've got a similar response from them too, but thanks to you all here, we've been able to ping them every now and then to let them know it's worth doing it :wink:
Don't know about their app, but we use Testflight on our mobile one.

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@Rudi For the Deezer App I am a Beta Tester already :wink: and for the HEOS App the feedback received now is that they are currently not looking for Beta testers and would like to contact me when they have a need but I still don’t know if they use Testflight then. Or will they have to us that as there is no other possibility for testing iOS Apps?

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I'm not sure @UGatDeezer it's a question for them :sweat_smile:

I just hope that we have news from them soon, so that I can relay it here for you :thumbsup_tone2: if they mention the need for testers, I'll let our devs know that we have the users for it :relieved:

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Today I got confirmation from Denon HEOS that Deezer HiFi is not supported at this time.

They didn't give me any timeframe when this will be available.

 

At this point the only FLAC enabled service on HEOS is Tidal.

I can confirm that is working.

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We don't have any timeframe either @nielsclaassens but we'll keep on pushing from this side. Thanks for sharing with us :v_tone2:

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Hi @Badirr @lvrmsc @Pima @Alex Po 

Thanks for waiting. After a few chats with our product teams about this, we managed to activate FLAC streaming for the HEOS app :wink:  I now need you to test this and let me know how it works, to make sure we're doing the right thing :smiley:

Hello Rudi,

Hi Denon/Marantz owners))

1 year is ending soon after first message in this topic.

We are still waiting and hoping.

Day by day))

 

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Ball is in their court now @Alex Po but here at Deezer we have our fingers crossed :wink:

Hi @Badirr @lvrmsc @Pima @Alex Po 

Thanks for waiting. After a few chats with our product teams about this, we managed to activate FLAC streaming for the HEOS app :wink:  I now need you to test this and let me know how it works, to make sure we're doing the right thing :smiley:

Hello Rudi,

Hi Denon/Marantz owners))

1 year is ending soon after first message in this topic.

We are still waiting and hoping.

Day by day))

 

Still MP3

Today I got confirmation from Denon HEOS that Deezer HiFi is not supported at this time.

They didn't give me any timeframe when this will be available.

 

At this point the only FLAC enabled service on HEOS is Tidal.

I can confirm that is working.

Amazon HD will also stream HIFi quality through the HEOS app.

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Thanks for keeping this discussion active @Ean666 

We're pretty much eager to provide our users with FLAC streaming but we're depending on HEOS at the moment. Hopefully their devs can find the availability to make the required adjustments :pray_tone2:

Thanks for keeping this discussion active @Ean666 

We're pretty much eager to provide our users with FLAC streaming but we're depending on HEOS at the moment. Hopefully their devs can find the availability to make the required adjustments :pray_tone2:


Thanks Rudi, Have they given you a date they're working on, or indeed, what steps they are taking towards it?

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They've given more details to our developers @Ean666 but no timescale. They need to develop the app to enable HiFi users to get FLAC streaming automatically - so no option to choose quality, but if you're HiFi, it would be set to the max (FLAC) automatically :thumbsup_tone2:

They've given more details to our developers @Ean666 but no timescale. They need to develop the app to enable HiFi users to get FLAC streaming automatically - so no option to choose quality, but if you're HiFi, it would be set to the max (FLAC) automatically :thumbsup_tone2:

 

Im getting 320 Mp3 Im not in it for the stream but the FLAC guess I cancel my subscription then Just had a 800NE delivered now Im not sure if I regret that, it also don't start on my NAS int he music folder but in Root, 

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Thanks for sharing your honest feedback with us @heos

I encourage you to let HEOS know about this as well, and for you to subscribe to the topic here for future updates. I'll be asking our devs to give a push from our side as well, once more :thumbsup_tone2:

Thanks for sharing your honest feedback with us @heos

I encourage you to let HEOS know about this as well, and for you to subscribe to the topic here for future updates. I'll be asking our devs to give a push from our side as well, once more :thumbsup_tone2:

 

Right, but hard give them feedback

when the Heos App ( on my phone ) under help and contact point to empty or removed webpage 

 

Find hard to think this system been on the market so many years and something this simple don't work as with the HIFI,  it not a problem I see With other Brands have to say I feel cheated like they do something  ½ and give up start to look at new things before it even works 

 

Im in Vietnam btw not that do anything for me other then making impossible to return the box

 

 

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us @heos I can imagine in Vietnam it must be complicated to return the device. But I can assure you we're also pushing for a HiFi improvement on this, their developers just need a bit more time :thumbsup_tone2:

I feel so cheated that I own 9 Heos speakers and 1 Heos Amp and now, anno domini 2020 I still have to download flac files, copy/paste to a USB stick to enjoy quality sound! And this just because that some software geeks could not find common language to make an audio codec understand an internet flow!!! It’s like rewinding a stuck tape casette with a pencil… I tried to output the deezer HIFI from a laptop to Heos Amp, but the laptop 3.5 mm jack is not really hifi…  I used a headphone amp Fiio that knows 24bit/192khz, but really??? So if I have to buy a laptop with an optical output, pardon me… it is cheaper to switch to Tidal, even it means pay more. What puzzles me is why Heos already has flac from Tidal and Amazon and you say that the problem is at Heos? How the hell comes the sound different from all these providers: via Moon , via Mars… via FBI, KGB???

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Hi there @Lentzi 

Thank you for reaching out to us about this.

Please refer to HEOS support for that. Our FLAC streaming is enabled for them, but if their app doesn't support it on their side, there's nothing we can do.

The good news is that our developers are up and ready to assist their counterparts at HEOS in case they need anything :thumbsup_tone2:

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The way I see it, you probably need them more than they need you. Lots of people with HEOS equipment will look for streaming alternatives instead of changing equipment. It would be good for everyone that you try to insist that they do their part in order to get customers back, myself included.

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We do @Silvestrus I've been looped in the chain of contacts our developers made to HEOS. Please bear in mind that it's their app and so, their development. We've been asking for this for a while now too. Thank you for your understanding :thumbsup_tone2:

Hi there @Lentzi

The good news is that our developers are up and ready to assist their counterparts at HEOS in case they need anything :thumbsup_tone2:

If you want to prove that you are not just giving polite answers perhaps you could tell us when was the last contact between Deezer and Denon and what was the last technical issue discussed. I am sure that among us, the clients, are some technical people that can "smell" the "bull-shiting" (pardon me!) OR, even better help you, us! 2 EURO may not seem much from Premium to HiFi, but I am sure that Heos users number is not small and this means more money that can go elsewhere, Tidal, Amazon...

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Hi @Lentzi 

Thank you for your honest feedback. There's also information which is commercially sensitive and cannot be shared.

But in sum, that was the last contact with HEOS, they're able to work on a feature which will adjust the audio quality according to the Deezer subscription (not give the option for the user to choose, for example). But that's development required on their side, so they need to add to their plans and that needs to be prioritised. I'm unable to give our community an answer on their development or plans.

There are other several manufacturer's who decide to add Deezer support to their equipment, via the public API and SDKs we have available for developers. They need to be taken accountable for this, not Deezer - unless it's a partnership where we actually contribute with our development too.

I trust you understand the above :v_tone2:

Well… today I updated the android Heos app and Deezer still shows 320 kbps. I rated the app with 2 stars and asked again about the Deezer hifi support. I just can’t wait to see if someone replies to that? Also, I asked this through the Heos app, got a ticket number but no e-mail notification that this is open or any update about it.

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us @Lentzi 

Let us know once you get a response - perhaps you can chase them with the ticket number you've got, as this is normal practice in similar companies, including Deezer :thumbsup_tone2:

Funny thing... that ticket number was only displayed at Heos app when I sent the problem, but now I cannot find it nowhere: at my gmail, at Denon .de , .us .ro sites, at Heos app . Even if I had noted the ticket number I could not find a Denon page to enter this.

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