Deezer HiFi for Denon HEOS and Denon / Marantz HEOS built-in devices

Hi there @ADS2471 @JakobPra @wnightsound @Silvestrus @Ibiskus 

Thank you so much for your contribution - that only means we need to dig deeper about this. I hope to be back soon with more info, please bear with me 

Like the others i really want hifi via the heos app so that i can play hifi on my music marantz receiver. I have a hifi deezer account but i cant use it now!!

We're looking into this further everyone, thank you for your patience 

@Rudi  out of curiosity, what would you recommend to use to stream deezer hifi on a denon receiver, or any power Amp for that matter? I guess it's a broad question that does not only apply to deezer specifically but streaming services in general. Just wondering If you have any tips 

Hey @JakobPra thanks a lot for asking!

I'm not an expert on the peripherals and connections of that type. @bluezzbastardzz @walker do you have a recommendation? 

@JakobPra @Rudi I’m not sure if I understand JakobPra’s question: “What would you recommend to use to stream” - what kind of music, which gear (speakers)? When I compared Deezer HiFi to Spotify Free back then, I mentioned some tracks that I used and posted about it here and on Reddit. I also posted a photo of my ancient stereo gear somewhere (SAC 50T  mono power amps and Axton AX-80 3-way speakers). Or did I completely misunderstand the question?  And I don’t know anything about the Denon Heos system, but still own a very old Denon CD player, I think it might still be my most expensive single HiFi product - which I don’t use anymore. 

Hi @bluezzbastardzz  

As Deezer is not able to stream Hi-res files to the Denon receiver over Heos, the question was what your recommondation would be in order to get the hi res quality on my system. 

Right now i started my trial period for Deezer in order to leverage to higher bitrate and stream high res to my system. But as its not available through heos I´m stuck with the same quality as Spotify, for a 50% higher price and a an far inferior UI (Spotify Connect is really light years a head of anyone else). 

If there is no solution for it theres really no other choice at all then to switch over to Spotify. It really would be a shame as Deezer hit the perfect sweet spot. Its higher quality then Spotify but still cheaper then Tidal (which costs 20€ in the highest setting)

OK, thanks for clarifying. As Rudi has stated, theoretically Deezer HiFi = FLAC streaming at CD specs with 16bit and 44.1khz (which is not HiRes which would use a higher bit depth and sample rate) should already work on HEOS systems, I think. Please correct me if I am wrong, @Rudi. The display on your receiver might tell you it is still MP3 at 320kbps, but that may be wrong, e.g. the new Chromecast version is said to support HiFi streaming now as well, but the display cannot show this yet. It might be necessary to update the firmware of the Denon / Marantz receivers for example. So it’s up to the developers and/or product managers to dig deeper what is the true current state and then tell Rudi who will then tell it the community. 

In the meantime you could use your Deezer HiFi account on a laptop or desktop computer and connect it via cable to your receiver, maybe with an external DAC between them if you own one. I don’t, so my PC stereo 3.5mm line out jack is connected via adapter and two good short cinch cables to my SAC monos which are placed behind the speakers for similar short cable connections.

Another option might be the new Chromecast version with your phone if your Denon receiver can be connected via Chromecast. Bluetooth does not know the FLAC format, so this would not work and/or not be ideal for lossless FLAC streaming.

Thanks for the reply! Even on a Sunday @bluezzbastardzz  :)

Interesting thought, that it might already stream the FLAC file but its just the display thats not updated. 

@Rudi can you maybe find out that in fact it is already working and just not displaying right?

I think i can speak for all of us here that nobody cares whats displayed as long as its streaming the FLAC :). I also just checked on the DENON and no firmware update available. But if you guys are 100% certain that it should work, than we can reach out to DENON to get them to update the firmware. 

By the way, it’s a bank holiday in the UK today, so UK staff might not work at all, except from home due to the Corona virus of course.

As I am not familiar with the HEOS system, is there a way to find out the amount of transferred megabytes per song maybe? That way you could at least make an educated guess if a song is in MP3 at 320kbps or in FLAC with at least 2-3 times the size (depending on its content).