Deezer HiFi for Denon HEOS and Denon / Marantz HEOS built-in devices

Thank you for your support @bluezzbastardzz you're super correct.

@JakobPra if the HEOS system is HiFi, then you can definitely stream in FLAC.

At the moment, what I'm trying to sort out is streaming FLAC via the HEOS app. I've detailed a comprehensive report to our devs last week and will keep an eye on it 

In my experience, Denon/Marantz AVRs and AVPs with Heos will display the actual streaming format that they are receiving.  This is visible within the Heos app, the AVR/AVP image sent to a TV, and by hitting the status button on the AVR/AVP.

Net, Deezer is apparently not able to stream FLAC to Heos.

Qobuz, Tidal, and Amazon Music HD do stream FLAC to Heos.  I’ve tried them all and Heos displays the full FLAC resolution, up to 24 bit/192 kHz, depending on the native track resolution.  Note that Qobuz requires BubbleUPnP to work with Heos, as there is no native Qobuz support on Heos.

I’m going to quit the Deezer trial due to lack of FLAC streaming to Heos.

I’m currently also running a Tidal trial.  From a Heos integration standpoint, Tidal is the best lossless/FLAC streaming service, IMO.  However, it costs more.

Thanks for the honest feedback @ADS2471 we're looking to facilitate the HEOS FLAC streaming. If you could, great, if not, please subscribe to the thread 

@Rudi, OK, I’ll watch this thread to monitor Deezer’s progress on FLAC with Heos, and may come back to Deezer HiFi if this gets resolved.

I'm sorry if my question seems stupid to you. Tell me, if I run the deezer app on my iPhone with a hi-fi subscription, and send a stream using Airplay to my denon dnp-800ne does this mean that I listen to FLAC? The app displays the "HiFi" label.

@e1n Do you mean the display of the Deezer app on your iPhone or on your Denon network player? As far as I know (not using any Apple devices), AirPlay2 theoretically could at least support lossless streaming, because it knows ALAC which is the Apple equivalent to FLAC unlike Bluetooth which does not know FLAC. I am not sure if the FLAC stream coming from Deezer is converted somewhere to ALAC via Airplay, but available descriptions of Airplay suggest it does this automatically with all input sources - another question for @Rudi and/or involved developers and product managers. 

Hi there @bluezzbastardzz and @e1n 

It is true that HiFi users can stream their songs in FLAC format to an AirPlay speaker without loss of quality. iOS converts the decoded audio data to ALAC, which is the Apple equivalent of FLAC, and is a lossless compression format.

About AirPlay 2, it consists mostly of 2 improvements compared to AirPlay:

• multiroom audio, which allows playing synchronously the same song on multiple speakers, it is supported by Deezer app
• fast streaming, which increases playback control reactivity and reduces the chance to face audio drops, this feature is not currently implemented in Deezer app

AirPlay 2 does not improve audio quality, the original version of AirPlay already offers CD-quality audio (16 bit 44.1/48 kHz) 

Great, but I think this hasn’t been mentioned or announced anywhere yet, or am I wrong? Anyway, @e1n yes you can, and your question was not stupid at all.  In the meantime I have also read about new iPhones and iOS versions supporting the FLAC format out of the box (e.g. with local FLAC files) which did not work for a long time either.

Hello guys, I am sorry but I need clarification :/ I am trying to assemble my first hifi setup (which is by itself very confusing for me, I had no idea it would be like that :D) and I thought I had finally put together a list of components until I came across this post. My list includes DENON RCD-N10: 

https://usa.denon.com/en-us/shop/denonna-mini/ceoln10_d

And I really love Deezer, now I am on premium subscription but I planed to upgrade to hifi after my setup is complete. So, my question is what are my options for streaming hifi music from my pc and my phone(I am using Samsung S10 if that is relevant) on this receiver? To be precise, what should I do in order to stream hifi records from my phone and pc on this receiver using Deezer, do I need some app, do I need wired connection to my pc etc.? Or should I go with some other receiver maybe? I hope my question is not too stupid and I am really not in music tech so I would really appreciate your help :)

Have a nice day and I hope someone finds the time to answer me :) 

Hi. I tried to stream the same song with Deezer HiFi and Tidal HiFi on my Denon AVR X4500 via HEOS App. The info panel in the HEOS App shows just MP3 320 kbps streaming with Deezer, but when streaming with Tidal it shows FLAC 44.1 kHz / 16 bit.

I also checked the transfer rate on my router while streaming. It's not accurate, but you can clearly see the difference between Deezer and Tidal.