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[FEEDBACK] What do you think of "Flow"?



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Firstly, thanks a lot for the feedback, super nice @Hizium 

Secondly, it is normal because Flow will base your tastes on songs, primarily. If you like more and more songs from the same artist, perhaps it's best to favourite the whole artist in your library :relaxed:

I’ve been using deezer for 2 years and I found flow to be really interesting. I basically only use Deezer hearing the flow playlists, so in the beggining, it repeated several songs. But when I searched for my favorite artists and songs and liked all of them, the playlists got a lot more accurate and in tune with my tastes (extreme metal).

Since that, this 2 years experience is being amazing for me. I’m the kind of person who likes to discover new bands every day or week, so flow became an excelent tool for me.
The only downside that I saw (as mentioned above) is that it will repeat the same song if the song is in several compilations.

Now, a quick question for anyone who can answer: Sometimes, flow will recommend a song from some artist. After liking the song (i love that heart button), flow won’t recommend other songs from this artist, only the one I liked (unless I go to the artist page and add to my favorites). Is that normal? Flow is recommending only this song because is the only songs from the artist that is close to my taste?

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It's very odd @dee_dirk but thanks for sharing, really useful.

I wonder if you do a cache cleanup on the app, once in a while,  this stops?

I sometimes have the phenomenon that titles repeat themselves. Always following the same pattern:
7 tracks
3 tracks
7 tracks from just now in exactly the same order

is that crazy or magical?
Anyway, I love my flow. :sunglasses::heart_eyes:

 

Some screenshots:

 

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Thanks a lot for this @darkdevil1988 missed your detailed feedback!

I agree, it is a bit confusing. I've forwarded your feedback to our devs in the recommendations teams. Our Flow will get a few improvements this year so this is very useful :relaxed:

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Flow have some issues with picking music from the likes playlist. 

I notice a lot when I listen to music that flow playing the same song from a album that isn't from the artist. 

 

For example I liked a song from this album from the weekend:

 

I get the same song from a "collectors" album like this:

This happening a lot in the flow radio station. 

It looks like Flow understand that I liked a song from the weekend  ( for example: Alone Again )  but don't playing the song from the album what is in my library or liked playlist. 

 

What I also notice is that sometimes flow playing the same song from the artist that I liked.  But then I get on the flow radio the non expliciet version.  And not the expliciet version I liked and added to my library.

 

I hope this can be changed because this is really confusing. And gives a lot double versions in my library from 1 song. 

Another example from the flow recommendations: 

Here you see I have another version from this song in my favorite playlist: 

 

 

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Flow have some issues with picking music from the likes playlist. 

I notice a lot when I listen to music that flow playing the same song from a album that isn't from the artist. 

 

For example I liked a song from this album from the weekend:

 

I get the same song from a "collectors" album like this:

This happening a lot in the flow radio station. 

It looks like Flow understand that I liked a song from the weekend  ( for example: Alone Again )  but don't playing the song from the album what is in my library or liked playlist. 

 

What I also notice is that sometimes flow playing the same song from the artist that I liked.  But then I get on the flow radio the non expliciet version.  And not the expliciet version I liked and added to my library.

 

I hope this can be changed because this is really confusing. And gives a lot double versions in my library from 1 song. 

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It was a big loss not to you but to quite a few users @Rgallego totally understand you. Aren't you getting better album recommendations via the homepage? I mean the section 'New releases for you' (I know it isn't the same, just curious about your experience).

Our teams think, for now, that you can get good artist-focused recommendation via the section 'Similar Artists' in the artist profile. 

But I also admit album recommendations are missing from our platform, and your comments are a big contribution to the discussion :thumbsup_tone2:

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Hi @Rudi

Yes, the Monday Discovery was nice to find out. I've been using it lately.

The hear this was a big loss to me. It gave entire Albums I still hear to this day, all based on my previous play.

A couple of songs don't really define an artist. If I really, really like the songs, I usually click and drill down on the Artist and hear his/her albums. It was just more convenient and more artist-focused.

 

 

 

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Thanks for the feedback @Rgallego 

Personally, I'm a big fan of the Monday Discovery list. I always get a few new favourites every week, so you should definitely check it out.

Also, we'll have a few important improvements to Flow very soon, where you'll be able to control a bit more on your discovery level, instead of a balanced mix between favourites and unknown tracks. Worth checking it out as I know you're a big supporter of our service!

Have a nice weekend.

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To be honest I dont use it often. I dont like it so much since it plays too much of my music and only very little new songs. so, for me its only a duplicate favourite list. 

 

What I miss is the “hear this” function you guys decided to kill a few years ago in favour of “Flow”.

 

When I had the “hear this suggestions” I discovered so many albums and I increased my music range a lot. I prefer albums to single songs.

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Hey @Barthemius 

Thanks for the feedback and the idea around "I'm tired with this song", really appreciated it.

For your current experience with Flow, please try clearing the app's cache and then when you get the tracks, remember to skip them straight away. That will give Flow the input it needs not to recommend it again, for a while. Please report it back to me when you seem appropriate, I'm sure Flow will improve for you.

I’m really tired to get always the same tracks in the Flow… Then I have to click on “don’t recommend me this track” even if I love it… BUT I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. Change your algorithm please. Or add a “I’m tired with this song” button that keep it away for 1 month.

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Me too @penguin with more people we'd be able to make the platform even better.

The good news for you is that Flow is getting more improvements this year, and I can't wait to reveal these to you! Stay tuned and thank you for your lovely support.

Enjoy Deezer!

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Flow is what got me to pay for Deezer. I tend to listen to so many genres that are generally considered incompatible. I felt like Spotify was thrown off by my musical taste and literally ended up suggesting any song under the sun. I was hating most songs and stopped using the platform altogether.

 

As others mentioned already, if you keep giving feedback to it about what you love and what you never want to hear again, it really learns and improves and the result is just amazing. I discovered so much music through flow and other discovery playlists so thank you guys for what you do. I also managed to convince my mother that flow is much better than the equivalent from Spotify and she actually swapped from Spotify to Deezer. She is very happy with her Flow playlist as well because every time she had the chance she actually gives feedback for the songs. It is also nice to do it so it gets saved in the favourites playlist if you ever forget what it was called.

 

Nice job guys, I wish more people actually tried Deezer so that the social features would actually be more useful.

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Flow is not horrible but its very much the same over and over. 

I might have liked a 90's song because it keeps spamming me with 90's songs. I don't dislike those but I never listen to it either. For now i’m skipping, disliking etc but it keeps giving me 90's hits. 

Also it's the same every day, over and over. Its like deezer's flow has a total of 100 songs and puts those on repeat. For example the Harry Styles song plays 2 times a day.

I'd like to listen to classic rock and slow blues, Pink floyd, Led zeppelin etc but there is too much pop music in there..


Also fire the one that came up with the idea of not adding a "play all by artist” button, inexcusable and pretty much a basic feature
 

Me too.

I get spammed by 90’s songs.

I could be noted why. I liked one remix from DJ Gollum featuring DJ Cap.

This is crazy good track to appreciate 90’s, but problem is this is HARD DANCE and 90s are soft.

I think Masterboy triggered it.

Perhaps I will remove like from this song so it won’t trigger anymore.

Please do some research on your likes. And delete. You still can keep it on lists without affecting flow. You need to avoid any of that from affecting your flow or skip them really quick.

Sorry for any inconveniences.

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Flow is not horrible but its very much the same over and over. 

I might have liked a 90's song because it keeps spamming me with 90's songs. I don't dislike those but I never listen to it either. For now i’m skipping, disliking etc but it keeps giving me 90's hits. 

Also it's the same every day, over and over. Its like deezer's flow has a total of 100 songs and puts those on repeat. For example the Harry Styles song plays 2 times a day.

I'd like to listen to classic rock and slow blues, Pink floyd, Led zeppelin etc but there is too much pop music in there..


Also fire the one that came up with the idea of not adding a "play all by artist” button, inexcusable and pretty much a basic feature
 

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Keep liking and favouriting stuff @hpguru Flow is constantly fine-tuning to your tastes :relaxed:

Don't forget to skip too!

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Good day.

Feedback about FLOW. It is still amazing, but how do I say FLOW to play different remixes???

It plays often same remixes of songs I like. For example.

Ravers Fantasy, it plays Basslovers United Remix, but there is also amazing Original Mix, Megastylez Remix and few more. It never plays them. Also Basket Case always DJs from Mars remix.

Never it plays original or for example other mixes.

May it be improved?

Day after… Basket Case (Radio Edit) on DAILY !

Thank you so much! Basslovers United Remix! Finally some other mixes!

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Good day.

Feedback about FLOW. It is still amazing, but how do I say FLOW to play different remixes???

It plays often same remixes of songs I like. For example.

Ravers Fantasy, it plays Basslovers United Remix, but there is also amazing Original Mix, Megastylez Remix and few more. It never plays them. Also Basket Case always DJs from Mars remix.

Never it plays original or for example other mixes.

May it be improved?

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Amazing, @hpguru!

Our Flow can only keep getting better and better! Thanks for your support :heart_eyes:

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Today I had very big impression with FLOW.

I mean it is always amazing, like crazy good, but today it is like crazy crazy good.

It keeps playing FINEST music, and the beat is amazing. The flow is amazing. Different genres from hard dance, even some rappers I liked, thank you so much Deezer Premium! If not that, what is worth to pay year in advanced? The click bait song from DJ S3RL was so amazing, I am pumped.

Literally I can not stop listening flow today! Thank you so much for FLOW!

Something is done indeed good, if your music fans are satisfied and paying for a year.

The track radio can be improved, but flow and daily usually nails it to my biggest taste of music!!!

The joke is how can I pay another year in advanced? Perhaps 24 discounted months?

This is what I need in my life. My A40 Samsung phone, Huawei earbuds and Deezer Premium.

And some bus tickets for a travel in Finland.

This is what I was looking for when searching a replace for discontinued Google Music.

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Great piece of feedback @GillyAus I've moved it here so that it can be picked up from the same thread - it's easier to track it too :wink:

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I like Flow though a few ideas:-

use location to suggestion tracks e.g. if I'm in the gym then play upbeat
use gps to suggest e.g. if I'm running then play upbeat


Otherwise it's my go to if I'm not sure what to listen to 🙂

My Deezer thinks I am 24/7 in the Gym based on the FLOW :joy:

I think my Deezer Premium needs to know when I am about to sleep to slow down a bit :grin:

Your idea is amazing, I think Google Music worked this way somehow, as long as I used it.

Now it is obviously in graveyard.

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There's still ways it can improve @Mummu please follow the tips here, you can still fine-tune your Flow :thumbsup_tone2:

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