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January 16, 2019

[FEEDBACK] What do you think of "Flow"?

  • January 16, 2019
  • 354 replies
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Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!
Pinned Reply By hpguru

I was also at first disappointed with the recommendations, but you need to learn Flow.  Play play play, everything you love and give hearts to your favorite songs and playlists and albums, add as many of your favorite artists and play play play and ban artists you don't like and Flow will soon catch your note.  I am very satisfied.  But you have to make friends and devote time to it.

Yes, indeed. Let it learn.

On first day lame, now it is much better than Google’s Feeling lucky which was okay, but always played same favourites over and over and over again. On Deezer I hear new tracks, new favorites, old classics over and over and over again. Today I paid ONE YEAR in advance for this great service.

Pay 10 months and get 12 months is their annual discount. I paid years for Spottily and then GPM receiving no discounts for loyalty. This is my new home for hard dance music since 29.06.20.

They gave me option to keep 2 months I already had trial. They suggested next time I need to cancel with them, go free, and buy annual again with discounted prices unless they give better ways.

I like flow, I like mixes, this service is good bargain at 99,90 a year for this amazing quality.

It works like a charm when something is great.

This is great, worth to pay.

354 replies

walker
Hitmaker
Hitmaker
June 9, 2021

Well, my story is long, but lets say that it has two points:
 

  • The first one was when 2k exists. I started playing songs in Deezer, using playlists,flows, mixes, until i had an error. Later, I knew it was because of the 2k limit. And I tried different things to avoid it: to begin with, i deleted all 2k songs and started from 0, adding only the best favorite songs ( i have best favorite songs and favorite songs, translated with stars, lets say 4 stars is favorite, and 5 stars are the best). My target was to go slowly, very slowly adding favorites ,making sure i couldn’t live without listening those , because if I could or I get bored , then, they weren’t really the best for me . I created playlist with the first letter of the song, but i filled them quickly. So my next step was to include a seccond letter of the song. As a result, i got more playlists and didn’t reach each 2k limit . I had some of them with 1 song. I knew Deezer’s flow works with your favorites songs,artists,albums….the problem was that i reached the limit in songs and artists, so Flow wasn’t going to improve. I started listening playlists, and also Radio when it was launched! Friends also recommended me songs, some of them from Deezer but the rest were from other streaming apps. In that case, i had to search them individually, or use songcatcher to identify and add them to one of my two letters playlists.
     
  • The second point in my Deezer’s history was recently, when favorite limit increased. Then, things changed. I decided to remove my favorite songs library to start from 0 with Flow and I noticed, as others say here, that it played some songs one time and other and other. I was in freemium mode, which allows you to skip 6tracks per hour.

    So imagine that i spent those 6 tracks per hour limit just with songs i had already listened to. And the funny thing is that after skipping , it could give me a new song or continue playing songs I had also listened, and what is worse, i couldn’t skip! . In other words, the free time i had, was spent by skipping songs and discovering 1,2,3 or 4 per day. Too slow and Flow wasn’t improved.

    Then I took a decision. Listen again to some of the most popular playlists to add new songs to my favorite zone . Doing that, I kept most of the 6 skipped tracks per hour  and only spent with songs i didn’t like. That worked and my library increased.After that, I started creating mixes from songs of my favorite section to discover new ones, until I realized after some time of adding most of them that they repeated themselves again!! Omg!! .

    I returned to Flow and it was improved, not so many already-liked songs played together, it gave me new ones and I could breath, finally. Recently, my subscription was changed to HiFi and I’m able to skip already-liked songs and songs I don’t like. Making it faster for algorithm to know more about me.

So in conclusion, at the end, Flow understand me, or it seems from what I see. Definetly, new 10k limit will help to improve the system. Maybe you ask why I didn’t transfer songs from other streaming services to Deezer? Considering that i have 26k in some of them, as a result of years and years discovering music in different streaming services, and sending songs from one to another and from the another to the one.

Well, my answer is easy: if i had done that, then i would have filled 10k limit at the moment, and that means that i would have  gone back to the first point: using again the playlist with 2 letters of the songs system and Flow would be, again,  in a deadlock because I couldn’t add more songs!! It would have improved , of course, but taking into account that i have 26k favorite songs (approximately) and Deezer “only” accepted 10k, it would have lost the 16k remaining.

That’s one reason. The other one is that i want to see how many time (months,years) take me to reach 10k limit with songs I knew, and new ones! I want to enjoy again pressing heart icon one time and other and other, after years without doing so. And when I filled the 10k limit, and transfer to other streaming services (just to know how many songs in total i have, for playing i prefer Deezer, by far ! ), i’ll probably hit a new record.

By the way, playlists with the first two letters are still on my library. Sometimes i remove songs with heart iccon filled , as they are in favorite zone, and deleting from those playlists translates in that i will have more space in the future when i have to return to this system: having 10k favorite songs + ( 2letters playlists * nº of songs in each one)

For now, i added 1914 songs and increasing...

I enjoyed reading it, thanks!

I used too Freemium for my first day which was 29.06.2019, and I was not happy with this 6 time skip, so I bought annual Premium. After it ends I will get Hifi Family from Deezer to try new stuff.

My Deezer has 2010 favourite tracks right now :)

I’m glad you liked my story with Deezer Flow , hehe. 

Be careful with family members if they are from Internet, friends and family members are better. You can imagine the reasons: 
- they don’t pay: in this case isn’t a problem at all because if you are the admin, you don’t give access until they pay
- you pay and admin disappears: is the worst situation. You lose money and is difficult to get it back , maybe using paypal they can help you. Also, most people pay > 1 month or yearly, so admin thief makes his/her month !!:money_mouth::money_mouth::money_mouth:
- members leave family: you can find a lot of reasons here: without work, earning less money at job, more economic outputs, don’t like this streaming service, fights between family members,etc.

2010 songs 1 month away,  maybe you have already 2,5k, or more,  now. The question is if you are going to stop somepoint between 9-10k or just get the limit. 
For now I have 3069 songs as favorites and i’m thinking about stopping at 9,5k so i have 0,5k songs until 10k limit goes higher in the future. Because if i got the limit, the only way to improve Flow would be pressing “don’t recommend this song”,  songs added to my ! playlists with 2 letters wouldn’t improve Flow. 

Astell&Kern Norma SR15 + Sennheiser Momentum M2 AEG + Sennheiser HD 598 + Sony WH-1000XM2 + Sony WF-1000xm4 + own 2249 Hi-Fi/-Res Tracks + Deezer Freemium. Let's play!
Roadie
June 24, 2021

I don’t like it. How can I stop Flow to add tracks to what I am listening?

 

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
June 26, 2021

I'm not sure I understood what you said @LaClau Copada but if you mean you'd like to discover new music, maybe try Monday Discovery in the homepage.

Also, check this out and leave your vote:

https://en.deezercommunity.com/ideas/private-from-flow-session-deezer-incognito-mode-58434

Roadie
July 14, 2021

It’s werid, why do live albums, that have to be listened in a proper order, come up in Flow?

Listening the third part of Keith Jarrett live in Koln makes no sense…

I guess I won’t use it anymore.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
July 17, 2021

Good point @RenatoG 

The good news is that our Content teams are actually working on a way to classify our content into different categories, EP, Singles, Live...that way the algorithms we use can provide better recommendations as well :relaxed:

Thanks for the feedback and stay tuned!

Ultimate Superstar
July 17, 2021

It’s werid, why do live albums, that have to be listened in a proper order, come up in Flow?

Listening the third part of Keith Jarrett live in Koln makes no sense…

I guess I won’t use it anymore.

You can ban that track and it hopefully won’t be recommended again.

Guitar Hero
August 2, 2021

I dont know what has been happening but Flow has been amazing over the last week. I’ve noticed a lot more song and album variety from my bands. The songs that play all the time are now down by about 10x. Literally upgraded to Hi-Fi plan and looking forward to the continued improvements :)

Ultimate Superstar
August 2, 2021

I dont know what has been happening but Flow has been amazing over the last week. I’ve noticed a lot more song and album variety from my bands. The songs that play all the time are now down by about 10x. Literally upgraded to Hi-Fi plan and looking forward to the continued improvements :)

Nice to hear that.

Did you know that Deezer is working on FLOW as we speak and FLOW you like will get much better than even this pretty soon. Hopefully you can wait just a bit to hear it yourself once again.

I hope to deal with you again. Take care.

Thank you for being honourable Deezer customer.

Hitmaker
August 4, 2021

Just got Deezer, and Flow is rather impressive, with decent results after just a couple of days, and about two dozen favorite artists. However, one thing that’s annoying is that it plays many favorited songs, even after I played them more than once in the last couple of days. There should be some kind of cooldown period. I’d rather hear different songs from the same artist.

Ultimate Superstar
August 4, 2021

Just got Deezer, and Flow is rather impressive, with decent results after just a couple of days, and about two dozen favorite artists. However, one thing that’s annoying is that it plays many favorited songs, even after I played them more than once in the last couple of days. There should be some kind of cooldown period. I’d rather hear different songs from the same artist.

Thank you for your kind feedback.

Deezer is working on FLOW as we speak. I can’t tell more about it, but there will be more features to say FLOW what you want to hear. In my opinion they could bring anything really to the table.

I am glad that you selected Deezer. You are honourable person doing so. Grateful to have you on board, stay for a while to see even much better FLOW. Thank you for being Customer!