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One Hit Wonder
June 6, 2018

Flow repeats tracks

  • June 6, 2018
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Is it normal to have several tracks repeated way too frequently when you are in the Flow feature?

101 replies

Hitmaker
July 1, 2020

Hello,

I’m used to playing Deezer flow through Sonos.

I face two “issues”:

  1. It is not an infinite flow, as it always ends after something like a hundred songs (There are 2000 marked as favourite).
  1. It is a little annoying since flow seems to follow always the same sequence, sometimes adding new tracks.

 

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
July 2, 2020

Hey @alice07 

Thanks for reporting this to us. I'll be passing your comments to the relevant teams here at Deezer.

Just so you know, our teams are working on providing a whole new integration with Sonos devices, as we're partners as well - stay tuned to the community :v_tone2:

Hitmaker
September 21, 2020

Just so you know, our teams are working on providing a whole new integration with Sonos devices, as we're partners as well - stay tuned to the community :v_tone2:

Any updates ?

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
September 23, 2020

Hey @alice07 

Still work in progress. Thanks for staying in the loop and don't forget to subscribe to this topic here for further updates :wink:

Rising Star
November 7, 2020

Well, it’s now 10 months on from my first post about Flow being a PoS.

Three days ago I had to stop Flow, after using it for the first time in months, because it played Emmylou Harris’s Going Back To Harlan about five times in two hours. Same track, not a mix of live versions of anything.

That just shows you how lame Flow’s algorithm is and that not one thing has been done to improve it in almost a year.

My annual subscription is up for renewal next month, AND the price has just gone up. Do you think I should A) renew, or B) change music services? (Hint: it’ll probably be B.)

Ultimate Superstar
November 7, 2020

Hello,

I’m used to playing Deezer flow through Sonos.

I face two “issues”:

  1. It is not an infinite flow, as it always ends after something like a hundred songs (There are 2000 marked as favourite).
  1. It is a little annoying since flow seems to follow always the same sequence, sometimes adding new tracks.

 

Yes, Flow could be better. Also I do not like when flow plays 90’s dance or pop dance music.

If I listen certain pop track, doesn’t mean I want it and similar flow, or something.

Today it played DJ Bobo, and never in my life I listened anything 90’s pop dance on Deezer.

I also do not like to ban tracks, as I do not dislike any music, but do not want it to play either.

Also it is not very practical to keep 1 000 000 tracks or artists banned.

The heart, broken heart (dislike) and default/no heart selection would do much better.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
November 9, 2020

Hey @Steve C 

Sorry to hear about that. But thanks for the feedback.

Work is being done on Flow constantly - but it also needs fine-tuning from you, along with more favourites added. Have you checked the tips from this topic here?

Rising Star
December 13, 2020

The Flow algorithm still needs work - with the my 2020 lists and stats recently presented (which is great) it shows that my ‘favourite’ track has been played 180 odd times this year so every second day.  I like the song but not that much and there are several similar.  I have over 600 tracks in favourites yet Flow doesn’t play them all regularly or anything close to that, if the full stats were available I’d guarantee some of my favourites are <5 plays through Flow in 12 months, some 180+ so there’s no real logic present.  I still think given Deezer clearly counts the number of times it plays a track it can’t be that hard to make it play each track less regularly or smooth the difference between most and lest played favourites?  You can dislike a song so it doesn’t play it again, why can’t you ‘it’s ok’ a track to play it occasionally or something but not daily or worse.  Or make it so over a month all tracks in favourites are played equally give or take 20% say?

 

This request is many months/years in this chat with the developers ‘looking into it’ but no improvement really.  Can it please be considered a little more earnestly?

 

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
December 15, 2020

Sure thing @gdr thanks for the rightful words here.

The thing with Flow, so that you know, is that it's constantly worked on. We focus a lot on the recommendations, which may vary a lot depending on the user. There are some improvements in the pipeline, so I'll add your comments to the mixture - like I said to you just now, on another topic, 2021 is the year where we want to focus on getting basics right, rather than developing many new features :thumbsup_tone2:

Ultimate Superstar
December 15, 2020

Good day.

I am Deezer Premiere user for 6 months.

Flow was indeed a joke on first day, but eventually not only FLOW did learn, but I as well.

So how FLOW exactly works?

Some repetition is expected. It wants to play from new stuff to classics and from that to songs you never heard of in the long time. How you provide a lesson for a FLOW? Skip tracks you do not like, ban tracks you hear too often and they are not related. Like as much tracks as possible.

Avoid to listen music you normally do not listen long term. And what I mean by that?

Let’s say you listen classical and jazz music most of the time.

If you want to listen sometimes rap music, do not listen it each day a bit. Listen it one day a bit in week. This is how I listen rap and r&b music without affecting my flow too much, thanks.

This GUARANTEES your flow will not be affected long term, instead short term.

FLOW is constantly learning. Nothing is perfect as well.

Please do keep discovering your musical journey on Deezer, I promise flow do get better over time.

Especially in 2021, now when Rudi finally announced it.

And please do not forget to live your best life :pray: