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Hitmaker
December 18, 2019
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Flow should not recommend songs which are not based on my Favourites

  • December 18, 2019
  • 39 replies
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Flow suggestions should be based solely on Favourite tracks.

Im sure there are lots of people that let their family play songs they’d never listen to otherwise.

My case is weirder. I had my account weirdly “cross over” with someone else’s. The only way I could communicate is by playing songs (our Now Playing songs were sync’ed). So I played “LOGOUT” by Saba about 15 times. Now it’s appearing in my Flow.

Ive never added this song to anything. Just played it.

As luck would have it, I do like the song so will put it in a playlist, but this shouldn’t be the case.

Further to this, I think due to the account cross-over issue, I’m getting a lot of weird recommendations of cheesy keyboard covers of piano songs. I can’t explain it any other way. 

39 replies

Pia.Deezer
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
February 6, 2020

Hi @tjgavlick please bear in mind that we are talking about FLOW here and not the playlist Chill.

You can simply click on the small angry face » click on change mood » then you have plenty of options to play Metal and Jazz :wink:

Pia.Deezer
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
February 6, 2020

Hi @teqteq, hi @Rob Igo your recently played tracks are only a “last resort” fallback for FLOW recommendations - when the FLOW algorithm runs out of ideas. This only happens when you have listened to your Flow for several hours...BUT when you have listened to a song or album A LOT it will influence the Flow, even if not explicitly added to your library.

However, this can be changed easily - here are the best tips for a smooth FLOW and interesting new discoveries :slight_smile:

  • You can always click on "Add to Favourite Songs" (the small heart) or small angry-face » "Don’t recommend this track” or “Don’t recommend this artist”. These three reactions have a much stronger positive effect on your FLOW than simply skipping to the next track
  • You also have the option to click on the small angry-face and change the mood completely in case you do not like the genre or vibe at all 
  • The more you listen to your FLOW and the more you click - the better your Flow algorithm 
  • The best way to improve your FLOW is to mark hundreds of songs AND artists with a small heart 
  • Delete songs from your favourites that you don't want to hear right now (save the song only in a playlist instead)
  • Click away the small heart of everything that belongs to a music genre that you otherwise don't like at all (save the song only in a playlist instead)

Please bear in mind that your FLOW is 50% favourites and 50% discovery - to balance out preferences of different users around the world. If you prefer to only listen to your Favourites instead simply listen to Shuffle My Music. If you prefer to discover more new music instead simply click on the Discover playlist next to your FLOW. You can also browse through the New releases to find new music. Enjoy!

Hitmaker
February 6, 2020

Hi @tjgavlick please bear in mind that we are talking about FLOW here and not the playlist Chill.

Totally — I only mentioned the playlist because that’s how those tracks were added to my listening history when otherwise I would have not sought them out. Later, Flow took those inadvertent listens into account when choosing songs.

I think based on the above post it might simply be because my account is relatively new and Flow doesn’t have much to work with, so it’s grasping at straws a bit. As of now I’ve only favorited 11 artists, 36 albums, and 0 tracks. Perhaps it will refine itself as I build out a larger library.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
February 6, 2020

Most certainly @tjgavlick. That's what our devs tell us about Flow. It tends to improve with more input :thumbsup_tone2: isn't it, @Noam Asulin 

Rob Igo
Ultimate Superstar
The OG
February 7, 2020

Hi I have a quick question to @Pia.Deezer  and @Rudi 

 

You mentioned “If you prefer to only listen to your Favourites instead simply listen to Shuffle My Music.” I’m guessing this shuffles anything under the “Favourites” section (e.g. from Albums, Playlists etc.)?   If you can confirm so everyone is clear etc. :) 

I'm a "Deezerhead" (fanboy) and just love music! (Please note even though I love all things Deezer I do not work for Deezer and therefore cannot assist with account issues etc.)
July 6, 2020

Hi

I would really appreciate this feature. I really like trying out Deezer's recommended releases or other artists/albums I find from the Music tab.

Other times I might get a recommendation from a friend or a request from my wife or guests.

But in these scenarios it doesn't mean that I love that music and want it to influence my recommendations. If I do find something I like then I will add it to my favourites. So then it makes sense for flow to be based just on my favourites.

Thanks

 

Rockstar
July 7, 2020

Hello @Jim Barton, thank you for your input, it’s appreciated :slight_smile:

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Yula
Deezer Staff
Deezer Staff
July 12, 2022

Hello everyone! 🖐🏼

We are starting a big Flow rework, to improve the experience and satisfy your needs. 💥

We might not add exactly this feature, but we are trying to find a way to improve Flow in the best possible way. 

This requires a lot of work and mostly, a lot of testing! 

We have created this group  for users who want to help us, you feedback is crucial for us. 

Join the group, we need YOU! 

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maxkshaw
Rising Star
Rising Star
March 19, 2024

Reviving this thread. The changes to Flow in 2022/2023 were broadly good, but I have a problem with one of the ‘improvements’.

It was decided that Flow would make its recommendations based on music that you have ‘liked’ but also music that you have played. Previously, Flow was based on music that you ‘liked’ only.

Now, my Flow is flooded with music that I have played (e.g. at the request of my wife, or instrumental music that I listen to when I’m working) but not actually ‘liked’. I know I can change the ‘mood’ of my Flow, but this still makes its recommendations based on music I don’t actually want to listen to.

Is there any way this could be fixed? Or, at least, implement an option that the user can enable/disable. e.g. “Restrict Flow recommendations to Liked music only. Yes/No”

Deezer Premium since June 2020
maxkshaw
Rising Star
Rising Star
March 19, 2024

In other words, Flow should not be influenced by a song just because it was played.

Deezer Premium since June 2020