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Hitmaker
December 18, 2019
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Flow should not recommend songs which are not based on my Favourites

  • December 18, 2019
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Flow suggestions should be based solely on Favourite tracks.

Im sure there are lots of people that let their family play songs they’d never listen to otherwise.

My case is weirder. I had my account weirdly “cross over” with someone else’s. The only way I could communicate is by playing songs (our Now Playing songs were sync’ed). So I played “LOGOUT” by Saba about 15 times. Now it’s appearing in my Flow.

Ive never added this song to anything. Just played it.

As luck would have it, I do like the song so will put it in a playlist, but this shouldn’t be the case.

Further to this, I think due to the account cross-over issue, I’m getting a lot of weird recommendations of cheesy keyboard covers of piano songs. I can’t explain it any other way. 

39 replies

maxkshaw
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May 20, 2024

@Yula, has this been acknowledged?

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GropplerZorn
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May 20, 2024

@Yula, has this been acknowledged?

hey there @maxkshaw 

@Yula has different responsibilities now with deezer and is no longer actively involved in this part of the forums and the service.

additionally, as this is a four year-old thread, you might gain more traction with a new, concise post, perhaps after reviewing all of the many and recent topics on Flow.

I think the topic has been discussed to death, but you might have something new and insightful to contribute.

Cheers.

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maxkshaw
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May 21, 2024

Thanks @GropplerZorn, I did not know about @Yula role change. Do you know who has replaced her?

I know this is an old thread and the subject has been “discussed to death” but I think that just reinforces the point that this is a highly requested feature that Deezer appears to be ignoring.

Perhaps @Jaime.Deezer could provide some insight?

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maxkshaw
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September 11, 2024

Reviving this thread. The changes to Flow in 2022/2023 were broadly good, but I have a problem with one of the ‘improvements’.

It was decided that Flow would make its recommendations based on music that you have ‘liked’ but also music that you have played. Previously, Flow was based on music that you ‘liked’ only.

Now, my Flow is flooded with music that I have played (e.g. at the request of my wife, or instrumental music that I listen to when I’m working) but not actually ‘liked’. I know I can change the ‘mood’ of my Flow, but this still makes its recommendations based on music I don’t actually want to listen to.

Is there any way this could be fixed? Or, at least, implement an option that the user can enable/disable. e.g. “Restrict Flow recommendations to Liked music only. Yes/No”

In other words, Flow should not be influenced by a song just because it was played.

@Leonídia.Deezer @Jaime.Deezer @AntjeDeezer has this flaw been acknowledged by Deezer?

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Jaime.Deezer
Community Manager
Community Manager
September 15, 2024

@maxkshaw as far as I am concerned there’s not an option to enable/disable Flow.
It is a popular idea though and I invite you to vote and keep pushing for it. I’ll do the same on my side but can’t guarantee anything:

Apologies for the inconvenience

maxkshaw
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September 16, 2024

@Jaime.Deezer - that’s an interesting thread. It discusses the problem, but I don’t think a “private session” is the correct approach. The solution is simple: Flow should be based on songs that the user likes (or dislikes) only. It should not be affected by anything else. Keep it simple and you will have fewer complaints.

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maxkshaw
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December 10, 2024

 

Reviving this thread. The changes to Flow in 2022/2023 were broadly good, but I have a problem with one of the ‘improvements’.

It was decided that Flow would make its recommendations based on music that you have ‘liked’ but also music that you have played. Previously, Flow was based on music that you ‘liked’ only.

Now, my Flow is flooded with music that I have played (e.g. at the request of my wife, or instrumental music that I listen to when I’m working) but not actually ‘liked’. I know I can change the ‘mood’ of my Flow, but this still makes its recommendations based on music I don’t actually want to listen to.

Is there any way this could be fixed? Or, at least, implement an option that the user can enable/disable. e.g. “Restrict Flow recommendations to Liked music only. Yes/No”

​@Jaime.Deezer ​@Leonídia.Deezer - is there any update on this? It seems that Deezer is ignoring the problem and/or doesn’t understand it.

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Leonídia.Deezer
Community Manager
Community Manager
December 14, 2024

Hello ​@maxkshaw thanks for sharing your opinion about improvements to add on Flow.

Flow algorithm is something that our developers are constantly looking to improve as it is one of the greatest features on Deezer.

That is why from Flow Genres, we have evolved and created the Flow Mods, and also we added an option for users to have their Flow more based to discovering new tracks or playing more content that is on their favourites.

If you want just to hear your favourites, you can use the feature “Shuffle My Music” inside your favoutires tab.

maxkshaw
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December 28, 2024

It seems that Deezer is ignoring the problem and/or doesn’t understand it.

If you want just to hear your favourites, you can use the feature “Shuffle My Music” inside your favourites tab.

Hi ​@Leonídia.Deezer, thank you for your reply, but I think you have misunderstood the problem. This isn’t about listening to my favourites. This is about what affects the Flow algorithm.

I use Flow to automatically play music that I might like. The algorithm is based on songs that I have “liked” so it picks similar songs that I haven’t heard before. Great!

However, the algorithm is also based on songs that have been played on my account. So now my Flow algorithm is picks songs that are not based on songs that I have liked. This is the problem.

If I manually play a few Disney songs for my kid, my Flow will start including kids’ songs, even though I haven’t “liked” any Disney songs? And there is no way for me to exclude these from the algorithm. My Flow has been inappropriately and irreparably influenced.

As I’ve said before, the solution to this is simple: the Flow algorithm should not factor in manual plays - it should be based only on “liked” songs.

Perhaps some sort of Flow customisation could be implemented, like a Yes/No toggle for basing the Flow algorithm purely on “liked” songs.

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