Flow should not recommend songs which are not based on my Favourites

I do think Flow is good how it is, playing favourites and songs you've been listening to. But I understand the original post about having suggestions you weren't wanting to be played. 

For example, at Christmas. You could have family members or friends over and be playing requests for people. Only to have those songs you don't like at all, suddenly being suggested in your flow. 

Maybe Deezer could benefit from an incognito mode like in Chrome? Which could be difficult to implement. Another option could be to clear track history or listening preferences for say the past 24 hours or 7 days? 

I'm stealing ideas from the trusty web browser. 😊

Hi there @Saraceno @teqteq @Viewtiful Bob 

Interesting discussion here. It's clear that the idea above is about Flow continuing the way it is, but not considering recently played music - but only favourites.

I guess the incognito mode is an idea. For when you don't want Flow to get involved with the songs you're just listening. Or in your case @teqteq, if the account has been compromised. We get it and the topic is the best tool for our product managers and developers to understand better how the service can be improved.

So even if there's a bit of confusion, that helps to get down to specifics 

I like flow the way it is but do see @teqteq point - and agree an “incognito” mode would be good for when you’re playing songs for family or a party etc.

I realise my wording was a bit misleading (though I recognise some have understood clearly - just clarifying).

Flow recommendations should only be based on tracks that Deezer knows I like (eg tracks in Favourites or Playlists). I don’t think it should be based on songs that I play but don’t indicate that I like (eg Christmas songs, my niece’s Thai pop music, that time I thought “OK I’ll see what all the fuss is about with this new Kanye album”, etc).

Or at the least these choices should rank very low and have minimal influence. But they seem to carry the same weight as a Favourite.

Im certainly not suggesting Flow should in any way reduce the variety of music. Only that recommendations should stem from songs you like, perhaps with a little extension into unknown territory to both open my eyes to new styles and improve algorithm tuning.

Believe me, if you saw my catalogue you’d realise I’m not trying to limit variety at all (230 playlists and counting, mostly split by sub-genre).

@Rudi can you change the title of this Idea to “Flow recommendations shouldn’t be based on recently played songs that I haven’t added to my library”?

I guess perhaps the perspective I’m missing is those that often play music and don’t necessarily add an album or song to Favourites. I’m the polar opposite - everything gets added to a Favourite and Playlist.

Maybe the album can recognise these 2 different styles and base the weighting of Favourites on the number of Favourites and Playlists the user has (if Favourites<Recently Played, weight Recently Played. If Favourites>Recently Played, weight Favourites, but more of a sliding-scale ratio-based weighting). 

I sort of agree with @teqteq comments regarding it should only suggest based on tracks, albums or playlists that I’ve added to Favourites section - not that I just choose to play e.g. I also like to try new albums but afterwards thinks “nah - not for me” - I don’t want that influencing my Flow and Recommendations.

Hi @teqteq, hi @Rob Igo thanks for your thoughts on that - I got it and just changed the title accordingly  

As far as I know that is already the case: the Flow algorithm is only based on favourite tracks, albums and artists and is not even based on songs in a playlist (which are not marked with a heart) and not based on recently played songs which are not in favourites. This could have been just by chance because the song Logout might have been in a pool of songs related to one of your favourite tracks.

However, I am gonna double-check with the Flow team next week. 

HI @Pia.Deezer 

thanks for explaining and yes please double check with the Flow team it would be great to know 100% if Flow is only based on anything in Favourites etc. :) 

This cannot be correct.

I’m in my trial period and therefore have a relatively fresh account. I clicked on a “chill” playlist because I thought it would be like those instrumental chillhop stations, but it was more like downtempo pop and hip-hop (with vocals). I don’t like either of those genres so I stopped the playlist pretty quickly after a couple skips.

My favorite albums and artists are entirely metal, soundtrack, and jazz so far, but I cannot get rid of pop and hip-hop artists from my flow. It pushes me away from using the feature at all.