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November 1, 2017
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Deezer Favourite Tracks Limit of 2000 too small - please increase it!

  • November 1, 2017
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I love hearing new music and when flow suggests a track I love I add "heart" it to my favourites. Having been with you a number of years I'm already over the 1000 number in my favourites and not all of these show on my mobile - please increase this limit 🙂
Pinned Reply By Rudi

The most voted idea in our Deezer Community.

We're proud to announce that our favorite tracks limit has been increased to 10,000 tracks! 

Thank you all for your patience and support while we worked on the delivery of this immense project. We hope you enjoy marking those songs as favorites now :smile:

This should be a gradual rollout to users, so please stay tuned for more details.

I'll be announcing this officially on our community homepage soon, so that you can give us your feedback. Once again, thank you! :purple_heart:

558 replies

Hitmaker
June 4, 2020

Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.

It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.

I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.

I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.

 

As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.

 

My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.

 

But, they’re keeping mum.

 

I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.

 

For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.

Rising Star
June 4, 2020

Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.

It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.

I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.

I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.

 

As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.

 

My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.

 

But, they’re keeping mum.

 

I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.

 

For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.

Sorry for the frustration. I can see where you are coming from. As a frequent music listener, I save over a few thousand songs on a playlist on YouTube. Definitely a far too small limit. From my experience with the Deezer staff, they seem really busy. This is unfortunately, as they also live away from their office without direct communication among staff (which can slow down the process greatly, of course). This post has been labeled “Not For Now”, which makes me suggest that this may be considered at a later time, but I could be wrong. Either way, I am in favor of the idea.

Hitmaker
June 4, 2020

Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.

It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.

I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.

I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.

 

As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.

 

My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.

 

But, they’re keeping mum.

 

I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.

 

For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.

Sorry for the frustration. I can see where you are coming from. As a frequent music listener, I save over a few thousand songs on a playlist on YouTube. Definitely a far too small limit. From my experience with the Deezer staff, they seem really busy. This is unfortunately, as they also live away from their office without direct communication among staff (which can slow down the process greatly, of course). This post has been labeled “Not For Now”, which makes me suggest that this may be considered at a later time, but I could be wrong. Either way, I am in favor of the idea.

Any way they could open source where the issue is and let others help? :D

 

(It’s a joke).

June 6, 2020

for real its very sad this is very voted and not fixed yet :(

June 9, 2020

Hi, I'm that loser that asked you to increase your pathetic limits few months ago. Checked the thread, saw that you couldn't give a rat's ass about your fanboys.Cancelled the HiFi subscription, moved on to YM and that Swedish behemoth. They're not perfect, and sometimes it's painful to use them, but at least they don't insult their users as blatantly as you do with those pathetic limits.

When you fold within the next few months/years, it'll be your own damn fault. I'm all for supporting European businesses (go EU!), but capitalism is a bitch, and you won't survive much longer with such intense competition and the level of incompetence.that you display in this thread.

Best of luck, Deezer. You're gonna need it, until you start listening to your customers.

walker
Hitmaker
Hitmaker
June 16, 2020

Hi, I'm that loser that asked you to increase your pathetic limits few months ago. Checked the thread, saw that you couldn't give a rat's ass about your fanboys.Cancelled the HiFi subscription, moved on to YM and that Swedish behemoth. They're not perfect, and sometimes it's painful to use them, but at least they don't insult their users as blatantly as you do with those pathetic limits.

When you fold within the next few months/years, it'll be your own damn fault. I'm all for supporting European businesses (go EU!), but capitalism is a bitch, and you won't survive much longer with such intense competition and the level of incompetence.that you display in this thread.

Best of luck, Deezer. You're gonna need it, until you start listening to your customers.

These are no ways to say things. You are inciting hate. Looking your profile: new member, no topics, no discussions. You log in here to give your worst.
As I said in other post, Deezer doesn’t have the same economic resources and staff than others, so it takes more time for them. But things arrive, like HiFi, dark mode, Waze integration, lyrics and more coming. 

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Guitar Hero
June 24, 2020

Well, it took Spotify six years to change this with hardly any staff replies during this time except that only 1% of users would need this feature:

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Your-Library-Increase-maximum-Songs-allowed-in/idc-p/4964615

 

Deezer is an year older than spotify.

But I was using spotify and was really exiting with new unlimited favorite tracks, but after 8k ones the app begins to crash, start to slow down and not show all the tracks.

Well, than I come back to Deezer.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
June 25, 2020

Thanks for sharing with us @phabignu glad to have you back. I honestly think we do a better job with the resources we have :smile:

But coming back to the subject, we'll definitely explore this. One of the major concerns is surely the performance of the app on your side, especially for users with a lower end model for a phone.

This is a huge topic so we hope to get it tackled this year, at least to have an idea on how to proceed :thumbsup_tone2:

JustMK
Rising Star
Rising Star
June 29, 2020

Hey @Rudi !

I’m very thankful for your help with managing Deezer’s flow and its recommendations. They’re way better than before!.

I also must admit, I agree with topic-writers: I need 2k favs too, because I’m EASILY reaching this limit. My OFFLINE playlist reaches 16k tracks and I try to mark ‘em here, in my Deezer Account. It is 14 years of non-stop searching of great music. I’m really tired to look for something new, knowing that Deezer doesn’t know all of my tastes and suggests me things I already know or heard. The only exit is looking for charts and new releases every day or look back to my offline playlist with every song I'm finding. If there was a mark “favourite” for my every favourited song, the search for music weren’t that hard with Dezzer. 

I would like also to have a feature to mark songs as "disliked" to not stumble upon songs I really dislike and see them as disliked in playlists or albums. 

It’s hard to recognize tracks I already have in my playlists if they’re not marked as “favourited”. 

Ultimate Superstar
June 29, 2020

It was on Google Music for 1000 songs… made it to work adding only 10 out of 10 songs. Or at least 7 out of 10. Likes for anything else, and own playlist for a genre. I think for me 2000 is huge for less than 500 songs lists. I mean I would like to see improvement too, but right now YTM offers 5000.

But let me say it YTM no more, too bad service, slow, less music.

Likes should be unlimited, but I am happy for now with what it offers.

For some it may reach fast, especially if you curate one list for all.

Google shuts down play music in 2020 by the end, I was forced to YTM, but didn’t like it. Actually wouldn’t recommend it to anyone… For me 2000 limits are improvement.

However I’ll reveal you Deezer. I am a huge fan of liking music, so it is probably 5000+ on GPM. Couldn’t even see all of them. Will happen here too, but we will see what happens.