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Mark Percy
Hitmaker
Hitmaker
November 17, 2017
Not for now

Change Deezer streaming codec from MP3 to AAC

  • November 17, 2017
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For a better audio fidelity experience Deezer should change the streaming codec from the old inefficient mp3 to the newer and more efficient ACC which a.o. enables newer Blutooth headphones to sound better, because no conversion is needed.
    Pinned Reply By hpguru

    At least, for now, it isn't on our plans, but we haven't closed the doors for it @Shadow V. @bluezzbastardzz - thank you for your continuous support and for keeping this thread going :wink:


    I hope it eventually comes cause I love everything about Deezer except the codec you still use. Ogg is clearly better, miles better. Right now I use spotify and the change in space occupied by the same music is huge. Right now spotify is using 5.5 GB (I have a lot, a lot, of musics downloaded xD). The same quantity of musics would be like 3x that, which is a lot. The deezer UI is so much better, more modern, easier to use and less cluttered. Spotify has the same UI for years. Its cluttered with multiple menus that aren’t adding anything. But that Ogg on spotify is miles better. Better sound quality and clarity.

    Do you see Ogg codec coming to Deezer in maybe 2 years at least?

    You sound like a customer who may benefit from Deezer Hifi. One year annual plan discounted.

    It has BEST quality. Even better than Spotify has ;d

    Perhaps you are interested?

    Search on Google “Deezer Hifi sonos deal” and you will find it!

    33 replies

    One Hit Wonder
    November 30, 2017
    Why not Ogg Opus?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_(audio_format)
    Mark Percy
    Hitmaker
    Hitmaker
    December 2, 2017
    No Ogg Opus because AptX and AAC are native supported streaming protocols supported by almost every Bluetooth headphone manufactor.
    Music Maketh Man
    Hitmaker
    December 2, 2017
    That is really good idea. I am happy, that with Deezer Hifi is possible to stream cd quality (and MQA later), but on mobile device, mp3 at 128 is terrible. As i know, only aac codec at 64kb/s is used in "Basic" audio setting on mobile device. Other (Standard and High) are using mp3 and that is not good. IPhone is using AAC codec and apt-x devices also needs better source, than mp3.
    Roadie
    June 14, 2018
    For a better audio fidelity experience Deezer should change the streaming codec from the old inefficient mp3 to the newer and more efficient ACC which a.o. enables newer Blutooth headphones to sound better, because no conversion is needed.

    I've heard this claim about AAC Bluetooth pass hrough before, but I haven't been able to find a reliable source to back it up, and I've also heard that AAC audio is recompressed a second time with AAC anyway and still loses quality. Cam anyone give a definitive answer for this?
    Roadie
    November 16, 2018
    I believe even "the one" that streams with AAC will recompress on BT AAC, because it streams at 256 Kbps AAC while BT only support AAC up to 250 Kbps
    Roadie
    April 13, 2019
    Hello! Is there AAC coding support in Deezer because I use bluetooth headphones and it provides me AAC coding
    Flo.Deezer
    Ultimate Superstar
    Ultimate Superstar
    April 13, 2019
    Hi @julia62 not at the moment, but we might have this in the future. You are welcome to vote for this above 😉
    Guitar Hero
    April 13, 2019

    For a better audio fidelity experience Deezer should change the streaming codec from the old inefficient mp3 to the newer and more efficient ACC which a.o. enables newer Blutooth headphones to sound better, because no conversion is needed.I've heard this claim about AAC Bluetooth pass hrough before, but I haven't been able to find a reliable source to back it up, and I've also heard that AAC audio is recompressed a second time with AAC anyway and still loses quality. Cam anyone give a definitive answer for this?


    AAC is superior to mp3 by every stretch of imagination, it gets better fidelity at the same bitrate, (like when comparimg a 256kbps mp3 vs a 256kps aac, aac will be better), it would also occupy less space in this same scenario, so basically AAC gives you better quality in less space.

    You can even let the AAC Codec at a variable bitrate in a way that it would be able to reach well over 500kbps when its needed, like when theres a big crescendo in that classical concert with 300+ instruments, originally recorded in 192khz and converted from 5000kbps FLAC to AAC. That gives you even better quality than mp3 can ever dream of achieving.

    But you need to convert the original source or at least a lossless version like FLAC to AAC not an MP3 file to AAC, that would be recompressing, also, quoting our friend Mark, AAC is a native codec over bluetooth, that basically means thats the codec bluetooth 4.0 aptx runs at, that means anything else will be encoded into AAC passing through a recompression as you mentioned. But that shouldn't take that much off of the music if you're converting from MP3, should still make a little difference. But it wouod be really hard to make a comparison.

    It might or might not make a difference in latency but that depends on a lot of things so I wouldn't count that as a plus for AAC,
    Rafael.
    Ultimate Superstar
    Ultimate Superstar
    October 17, 2019

    Thank you for your votes! We passed your feedback on to our devs and they decided not to work on it at the moment, however, we will keep this topic posted about it if things change in the future!

    Hitmaker
    October 30, 2019

    Having just switched from Tidal, the difference between MP3 and AAC when using BT headphones transmitting with AAC is quite noticeable. Quite a drop in quality. This makes me sad. Looking forward to iOS HiFi and AAC in future!