Hello there @KDAM71, 

yes this is a hot topic around Flow, and our teams are working to improve Flow around your feedback. 

Our teams have done a lot of research around it, we had a testing group hee in the community about it. 

There have been improvement and Flow should not repeat as much as it used to. 
If it still does I would recommend feeding your algorythm more, listening to albums and playlists you like, 

adding songs to your favourits and more artists too. 

When the Flow or track Mix starts repeating itself, have you tried clicking on the angry face and using the directions there? 
That will help too!

More improvement around Flow are coming very soon! 

Also there is this very interesting article that help undestand Flow and track Mixes more: 

https://deezer.io/how-deezer-built-the-first-emotional-ai-a2ad1ffc7294

@Yula Thank you for the feedback.

In my experience Flow doesn’t play favourite albums or artists. I've manually added lots of those tacks to my favourites. Perhaps you can make an options to add all tracks from an album, playlist or artist to favourite tracks.

On another note; apparently I'm not such a smart cookie because I don’t understand what the private message was about and I couldn't reply there so I thought I'd do it here.

Something else. Does the text ‘Runaway Baby’ behind my user name mean I’m a beginner on this forum?

@Yula Thanks for the link to the article. I found it interesting.

Hey, the private message was just because you earned a badge for creating ideas in the forum. 

Runaway Baby it’s the name of your rank. To know more about Ranks and Badges, check here!

No flow does play only favourite albums or artists, it plays music based on your listening history and your favourites. 

You have to feed the algorythm from time to time so it does not get repetitive. 

@YulaFlow is already much less repetitive. I have 546 favourite tracks now.

I couldn't find anything about rank or badge there. When I searched for rank I got only results with range.

Before I said in my experience flow does NOT play favourite artists or albums.

Hello @Yula ,

A little while ago I was listening to a trance playlist. When it finished, recommended took over. The first 6 or so tracks where trance and then it changed to another music style. I pressed the angry face button twice to get back to trance music. 5 or 6 tracks later it happened again and so on. Judging from the article your AI should be able to recognize a music style. Is there a reason it changed the style every 5 or 6 tracks or so? At the moment it isn’t an issue because I found a playlist containing 897 tracks. :)

Hi @KDAM71 I can’t find any particular reason why you are getting this suggestion each 5/6 tracks. As said Deezer try to promote on the automated recommendation new artists, new content similar to what you are hearing. Might be that the tracks you are getting are incorrectly categorized in our catalog. I can’t assure that anyway.

We have lunched the Flow Genres from iOS and soon this same feature will be available on Android. So this might improve the whole experience. Let us know later your new experience with that.

Hello @Leonídia.Deezer,

Thank you for your effort. I’m listening to the desktop app on windows.

Best regards, Klaas

Hi @KDAM71, Thanks for your message.
I have shared all your information with our developers.

I have a terrible example of repetitiveness for Track Mix.

Here is an artist with not a large library: https://www.deezer.com/us/artist/150425072

I like their tracks.

The related problem is that it’s separated from other their work: 

And there is a mess of artists: https://www.deezer.com/us/artist/1152817

I’ve reported, maybe a few years ago, nothing has been changed.

So what, because of this mistake we have an artist page with a single EP.

I launch “Track Mix” for a single track from this EP, and get suggestions just by 3 other tracks from the same EP, nothing more:

I’ve checked how it works on Spotify — just correctly:

Hi @AlexWayfer !

I found 297 tracks of circumference

Hi @AlexWayfer !

 

I found 297 tracks of circumference

 

OK, I’m glad for you.

I was discussing 2 problems:

1. Mixed artists, different artists on the single page and tracks of the single artist on different pages.
2. Repetitiveness of the Track Mix, what about this discussion.

Nothing about number of tracks in search.

Is it a solution for you to put all their music in to one playlist?

For me? What are you talking about? What playlist?

This discussion is about track mix repetitiveness.

From your starting post:

I like the track mix feature when I want to play music with the same ‘feel’.

I like it too! And I wanted similar tracks to this one: https://deezer.page.link/JxWeTcar6JdB2RVe8

But I’ve got only tracks from the same artist and the same EP.

I wanted more different tracks for the “Track Mix”!

After a while however it starts repeating tracks that were played in the same session.

Yes, just like in my screenshot. One by one, the same tracks.

Hi @AlexWayfer !

 

I found 297 tracks of circumference

 

 

OK, I’m glad for you.

 

I was discussing 2 problems:

1. Mixed artists, different artists on the single page and tracks of the single artist on different pages.
2. Repetitiveness of the Track Mix, what about this discussion.

Nothing about number of tracks in search.

You mean Launch Track mix ?

Hi @AlexWayfer !

 

I found 297 tracks of circumference

 

 

OK, I’m glad for you.

 

I was discussing 2 problems:

1. Mixed artists, different artists on the single page and tracks of the single artist on different pages.
2. Repetitiveness of the Track Mix, what about this discussion.

Nothing about number of tracks in search.

You mean Launch Track mix ?

 

Exactly. I gave you links, you can check all of this by yourself.

Hi @AlexWayfer !

 

I found 297 tracks of circumference

 

 

OK, I’m glad for you.

 

I was discussing 2 problems:

1. Mixed artists, different artists on the single page and tracks of the single artist on different pages.
2. Repetitiveness of the Track Mix, what about this discussion.

Nothing about number of tracks in search.

You mean Launch Track mix ?

 

 

Exactly. I gave you links, you can check all of this by yourself.

When you Launch Track mix then is not playing songs from one artist .When you launch a mix of one song of some artist then next song will have similar style and feel but will be of some other artist .

here is link

Launch A Mix Inspired By A Song You Love

https://support.deezer.com/hc/en-gb/articles/6549730827037-Launch-A-Mix-Inspired-By-A-Song-You-Love

Hi @AlexWayfer !

 

I found 297 tracks of circumference

 

 

OK, I’m glad for you.

 

I was discussing 2 problems:

1. Mixed artists, different artists on the single page and tracks of the single artist on different pages.
2. Repetitiveness of the Track Mix, what about this discussion.

Nothing about number of tracks in search.

You mean Launch Track mix ?

 

 

Exactly. I gave you links, you can check all of this by yourself.

 

When you Launch Track mix then is not playing songs from one artist .When you launch a mix of one song of some artist then next song will have similar style and feel but will be of some other artist .

 

here is link

Launch A Mix Inspired By A Song You Love

https://support.deezer.com/hc/en-gb/articles/6549730827037-Launch-A-Mix-Inspired-By-A-Song-You-Love

Are you kidding me or what. Please, open the track (link again: https://deezer.page.link/JxWeTcar6JdB2RVe8) and press “Launch mix”, OK? Press “Next track” button a few times. I’ve sent the screenshot of my result, you can send yours.

I’d like to hear different artists and songs. But the problem of “Track Mix”, which is discussing here, is in repetitiveness, and sometimes, like in my case, in a small variety of tracks. Very small.

@AlexWayfer 

when I start lounch track mix of song Breathe then give me about 32 songs in mixes and then start repeat songs which are in mix already 

Later I was try launch track mix of some other artist and song ,and same thing happen .It was around 30 songs in mixes ….

@AlexWayfer

 

when I start lounch track mix of song Breathe then give me about 32 songs in mixes and then start repeat songs which are in mix already 

 

Later I was try launch track mix of some other artist and song ,and same thing happen .It was around 30 songs in mixes ….

 

 

 

This is from the broken artist page.

Please, use the link that I’ve sent.

https://deezer.page.link/JxWeTcar6JdB2RVe8

“Breathe” was mentioned as “their other work on a separate artist page”.

Please, re-read.

Hello @AlexWayfer 

Ok, it’s not a total solution but I was responding to “ The related problem is that it’s separated from other their work “.

When you make a playlist with all tracks of the divided artist, you can set it to shuffle play. I know it’s not the same as track mix but perhaps it’s the best you can do right now.

Ok, it’s not a total solution but I was responding to “ The related problem is that it’s separated from other their work “.

It means “it’s not the problem which we’re discussing here, but it’s a part of my ultimate reproduction of the topic-starter problem”.

When you make a playlist with all tracks of the divided artist, you can set it to shuffle play. I know it’s not the same as track mix but perhaps it’s the best you can do right now.

Thanks. I wasn’t asking about this, and I believe I’d come up to this, if I wanted, but I wanted literally other artists, different tracks and artists, about which I even don’t know, or know, but they’re very similar to the mentioned one. That’s why and how I’ve found this discussion and populated it with my simple ultimate example of repetitiveness and brokenness of “Track mix”.

@AlexWayfer

 

when I start lounch track mix of song Breathe then give me about 32 songs in mixes and then start repeat songs which are in mix already 

 

Later I was try launch track mix of some other artist and song ,and same thing happen .It was around 30 songs in mixes ….

 

 

 

 

This is from the broken artist page.

Please, use the link that I’ve sent.

https://deezer.page.link/JxWeTcar6JdB2RVe8

 

“Breathe” was mentioned as “their other work on a separate artist page”.

Please, re-read.

yes ,it’s broken 

Hi @Nina Nebo @KDAM71 thanks for the help here.

Regarding this artist, first I have moved some content between pages and everything should be better now:

• https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/150425072
• https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/1152817

Hi @AlexWayfer Regarding the question of the short and repetitive track mix for this artist, it is related to the fact that there isn’t much content under this artist. Sometimes it can even happen that you don’t find an track mix, as that feature requires a minimum of tracks to appear as an option. Nevertheless for this specific track https://www.deezer.com/us/track/1275757722 seem have a bug when we launch a track mix from there. But if you try other songs from the same artist, link this one - https://www.deezer.com/us/track/2249248497 here you don’t get the same issue had you get different recommendations. 

i have pass to our catalogue team to investigate why the track mix is not working with that specific track, or better what is happening with the 4 tracks of that album.

Thank you for investigation and catalog fixes. Yep, from “Breathe” it seems OK, but from “Ambivalence” it’s still broken, although it’s by the same artist now.