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Does Deezer actually use a User-Centric Payment System?


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  • Lover
  • 18 replies
  • July 28, 2021

Hey @Rudi Any news on this? I did see https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/05/06/ecsa-streaming-demands/ and thought I saw news of another streaming service changing to UCPS, but can't remember which one.


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  • Alien SuperStar
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  • July 29, 2021

Hey @lord_lightbringer @bytesnz 

Yes, we have our UCPS system ready but we need the labels and distributors to be in agreement with that for it to launch.

Because of the pandemic, we've delayed some parts of the project but we're very soon to revamping the initiative - keep an eye on the website, it'll get updated and with that we'll hope to push our model into reality, at least in one country to start with :relaxed:


Thanks Rudi - looking forward to further updates! ✌️


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  • Runaway Baby
  • 10 replies
  • October 27, 2022

@Rudi - Isn't this calculator incorrect?

It states that my 1290 streams in September resulted in 99% of my subscription going to artists I didn't listen to. 

Example:

There are 3 million subscribers in September paying $10. 

The total pot is $10 * 3,000,000 = $30,000,000

They each stream 1200 times in a month, for a total of 3.6 billion streams. 

User A streaming 1290 times in the same month, means they have (1290 / 3,600,000,000) of the total streams. 

The payout for those 1000 streams will be (1290 / 3,600,000,000) * $30,000,000 = $10.75

The percentage of their subscription going to their artists ($10.75/$10) * 100 = 107.5%

In order for https://www.deezer.com/us/ucps/me to be correct, the average Deezer subscriber would have listened to 129,000 streams in September. At an average of 3 minutes per song, that would require 6450 hours of monthly listening, or 215 hours per day, which is obviously impossible. 


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  • Runaway Baby
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  • November 2, 2022

My listening just doubled between September and October and it still claims 99% of my subscription goes to artists I don't stream.

My average listening time per day was 6.5 hours, which is considerably above average. If 99% of my subscription is going to other artists, then how is anyone getting paid? 


is ucps still a thing? the link no longer works


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