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Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
September 11, 2019

Do you know which artists get your money?

  • September 11, 2019
  • 32 replies
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After several months of hardwork and dedication we're thrilled to announce our new initiative! Deezer has launched a new website to show users how we want to make streaming music fairer for everyone by implementing a User-Centric Payment System, UCPS. We are aiming to launch our new payment mode early next year to give the power to subscribers to decide where their money goes. With UCPS, your monthly payments go to the artists you listen to, rather than the current market share-based system.

Access our simulator on our special UCPS website - www.deezer.com/ucps. You’ll be able to discover your top five artists and exactly how much of your Deezer subscription is paid out to the acts you love.

Share below any questions you may have and join in the conversation on social media with the hashtag #MakeStreamingFair.

Let's make an impact in the music industry and get music streaming fairer for everyone!

32 replies

Pia.Deezer
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
April 14, 2020

Hi @beekpres cool that you are interested, too :slight_smile:

Deezer is working on launching a UCPS pilot this year but in order to do so we need all of our record label partners to agree. The discussions are positive, but not finished yet. Therefore, we do not have a set date yet.

Roadie
July 19, 2020

I’d like to know how the length of pieces does play into this. I like ambient and drones, there tracks are often longer than usual, even just one track per “CD”.

Now if I listen to such an album I may spend more time with artist Droner, than with Shorter, who may be singles and EP oriented. That would mean, Droner may have got 3 plays, but I spent 3 hours with them, Shorter got 6 plays but I spent just about 10 minutes with them.

For Droner we also have got the strange issue that some of his one hour long albums may be listed as singles and EPs just based upon the number of tracks.

 

Yes, I acknowledge that … it’s complicated. :)

Ultimate Superstar
July 19, 2020

Hi @beekpres cool that you are interested, too :slight_smile:

Deezer is working on launching a UCPS pilot this year but in order to do so we need all of our record label partners to agree. The discussions are positive, but not finished yet. Therefore, we do not have a set date yet.

Yes, this will be a deal breaker for many.

On Spotify and Google Music I heard so much edm music, but because hard dance is not popular, from my subscription I compensated streams of popular names I do not listen like Dual Lipa.

Let’s say your model is online at my birthday later this year.

I am glad my subscription will go to actually what I listen:

Refuzion, Da Tweekaz, DJ THT, Bass Modulators and Justin Corza.

It is fair game, I know to support exactly what I stream.

So they pay from my personal pool, but I have one question. I listen TREMENDOUS amount of music. Hard dance music. 191 streams per day on average. That is 5921 streams a month.

I paid €9,99 a month. Will my listened artists get almost nothing? Compared to someone who streams on average let’s say 19 tracks a day and 589 streams a month? Thanks.

Roadie
July 20, 2020

For Droner we also have got the strange issue that some of his one hour long albums may be listed as singles and EPs just based upon the number of tracks.

I am sorry, thus was OT in this thread. I just also learned that this is actually decided by the uploader.

 

Roadie
October 23, 2020

Ok, my opinion in this matter may not be important, but as a user, I absolutely love this idea! I was considering changing my music streaming provider (sorry guys at Deezer), but after hearing this I’ve decided to stay. I listen to indie artists a lot, and it really grinds my gears when my money goes to big names instead of my favourites.

Please Deezer make it happen!

It should also be in your advertisement campaign somewhere. Like- “support Your favourite artists”, or “support only the artists YOU love” sth like this. I only discovered this initiative, by listening to some obscure German podcast for music production.

Greetings from Germany

Simon

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
October 24, 2020

Thanks a lot for the honest feedback @Szymon Banaś we really appreciate it!

I also personally like the ad suggestion - even though the idea is to do what we think is fair, rather than using it as publicity. The pandemic slowed a few things down but this is our headline project, we'll keep pushing through.

Here at Deezer, we're small, but we're passionate about music and we're committed to 110% with what we have :thumbsup_tone2:

Hitmaker
January 24, 2021

I’d like to know how the length of pieces does play into this. I like ambient and drones, there tracks are often longer than usual, even just one track per “CD”.

Now if I listen to such an album I may spend more time with artist Droner, than with Shorter, who may be singles and EP oriented. That would mean, Droner may have got 3 plays, but I spent 3 hours with them, Shorter got 6 plays but I spent just about 10 minutes with them.

For Droner we also have got the strange issue that some of his one hour long albums may be listed as singles and EPs just based upon the number of tracks.

 

Yes, I acknowledge that … it’s complicated. :)


Completely agree. I listen to a lot of electronic, jazz and classical, a majority of which have longer tracks than a majority of pop. Minutes played could be a better measure rather than plays. If you play a track almost to the end and then skip back to almost the start repeatedly is that one play. The idea of UCPS should have been it from the start, but better late than never, especially in this covid climate.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
January 25, 2021

The pandemic slowed down our plans in France, where we're planning to start this "revolution" but we'll keep on taking strides towards it! It's the future we want for the industry :relaxed:

Ultimate Superstar
January 25, 2021

In this future model where your payments goes to music you actually listen.

So they pay from my personal pool, but I have one question. I listen TREMENDOUS amount of music. Hard dance music. 191 streams per day on average. That is 5921 streams a month.

I paid €7,99 a month for long. Will my listened artists get almost nothing? Compared to someone who streams on average let’s say 19 tracks a day and 589 streams a month? Thanks.

Hitmaker
February 1, 2021

In this future model where your payments goes to music you actually listen.

So they pay from my personal pool, but I have one question. I listen TREMENDOUS amount of music. Hard dance music. 191 streams per day on average. That is 5921 streams a month.

I paid €7,99 a month for long. Will my listened artists get almost nothing? Compared to someone who streams on average let’s say 19 tracks a day and 589 streams a month? Thanks.


Wowza, that is a lot of streams :bow:

Question, if deezer switched to this type of schema, if you could make voluntary payments that 100% of went to the artists you listened to would you?

I suppose the problem with proposing something like that is 100% probably would end up with the artist, I’m sure the labels would skim some/a lot off the top.