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Deezer HiFi for Denon HEOS and Denon / Marantz HEOS built-in devices

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November 10, 2018
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Is there a time frame for Deezer HIFI Heos support?

Pinned Reply By UGatDeezer

I am also happy that finally this got implemented after so many years!

Since today there is a HEOS update which integrates Deezer HiFi and Tidal Connect. First you need to update the HEOS App and afterwards run a firmware update to version 3.34.240. More here: https://support-uk.denon.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3832/~/latest-heos-app-and-firmware-update-available

I will test it the coming days …

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Yuriy Nazarov

Guitar Hero

Apple promises to launch hifi music streaming in Apple Music app soon.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.macrumors.com/2021/05/01/ios-14-6-beta-6-hifi-apple-music/amp/

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izools

Roadie

Just signed up for Deezer HiFi as a cheaper alternative to Tidal for use with my Denon home cinema receiver and very disappointed to see the quality limited to MP3 320Kbps.

Also very disappointed to see this thread dragging on for a year with no resolution.

I'm going to cancel my subscription. For my use case, there's no benefit to me over using Spotify until HEOS streaming is supported at the advertised HiFi / Lossless bitrates.

What the industry needs is a platform similar to Spotify Connect which allows other streaming services like Tidal or Deezer to select the target playback device from right within the app itself rather than relying on third party integration from the likes of HEOS.

While Spotify is limited to 320Kbps the usability and integration of the platform just puts the competition to shame. Here's hoping Spotify roll out HiFi streaming soon.

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Yuriy Nazarov

Guitar Hero

Just signed up for Deezer HiFi as a cheaper alternative to Tidal for use with my Denon home cinema receiver and very disappointed to see the quality limited to MP3 320Kbps.

Also very disappointed to see this thread dragging on for a year with no resolution.

I'm going to cancel my subscription. For my use case, there's no benefit to me over using Spotify until HEOS streaming is supported at the advertised HiFi / Lossless bitrates.

What the industry needs is a platform similar to Spotify Connect which allows other streaming services like Tidal or Deezer to select the target playback device from right within the app itself rather than relying on third party integration from the likes of HEOS.

While Spotify is limited to 320Kbps the usability and integration of the platform just puts the competition to shame. Here's hoping Spotify roll out HiFi streaming soon.

If you have Xbox One (S, X) at home, you should try to stream it through Xbox AirServer application, this will make possible to disable all wifi and network connections in your amp, and you’ll get straight full analog mode from toslink connection, and will keep deezer hifi as cheap service.

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izools

Roadie

Just signed up for Deezer HiFi as a cheaper alternative to Tidal for use with my Denon home cinema receiver and very disappointed to see the quality limited to MP3 320Kbps.

Also very disappointed to see this thread dragging on for a year with no resolution.

I'm going to cancel my subscription. For my use case, there's no benefit to me over using Spotify until HEOS streaming is supported at the advertised HiFi / Lossless bitrates.

What the industry needs is a platform similar to Spotify Connect which allows other streaming services like Tidal or Deezer to select the target playback device from right within the app itself rather than relying on third party integration from the likes of HEOS.

While Spotify is limited to 320Kbps the usability and integration of the platform just puts the competition to shame. Here's hoping Spotify roll out HiFi streaming soon.

If you have Xbox One (S, X) at home, you should try to stream it through Xbox AirServer application, this will make possible to disable all wifi and network connections in your amp, and you’ll get straight full analog mode from toslink connection, and will keep deezer hifi as cheap service.

Thank you for your suggestion but the reason I purchased a Denon amp with HEOS support was to enable streaming support right at source without involving any third party devices like an xBox, PC, or Playstation (which all generate their own noise, consume their own electricity, and introduce processing losses in the signal path).

My use case is HEOS.

As Spotify Connect offers the most user friendly experience with no loss of quality compared with Deezer via my receiver’s integrated streaming support, I will stick with that.

When Deezer have enabled HiFi support via HEOS I will re-subscribe to HiFi, on a long term / permanent basis.

I’ll watch this thread with baited breath.

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biker972

Guitar Hero

Dear All! I am new here, and would like to share with all Marantz and Denon users my experience of listening Deezer HiFi subscription in 16/44.1 (redbook) quality at home. I will not blame anybody here, I have read all the history, and can confirm only, that till now (28.04.2021) HEOS app, does not stream Deezer HiFi in lossless format to my Marantz PM7000n, at least it shows me “mp3 320 k.bit” in the app, when playing Deezer through the app, having HiFi subscription.

So, how to solve this issue and get to down sampled music streamed wirelessly to you home stereo setup? Here we currently have two options, and I have used them both with pleasure:

For those who have relatively new models of Denon and Marantz items and IPhone or IPad, which support the Airplay 2 protocol via home wi-fi network - simply use this! Exactly 2nd version of Airplay protocol sends the audio via wi-fi to your devices without down sampling (it only converts flac to alac format of the data stream), so your device DAC will get if properly. I got only one problem here: IPhone cannot find my Marantz PM7000n via wi-fi connection due to poor home modem/router (many user face such issue around the world) but it works ideally if you connect your device to LAN with cable! Please check this out!

Both option were perfectly fine to me. Moreover, I tried to play Deezer tracks in Heos app. and realized that the app itself is uncomfortable to use, so I do not like it at all, and therefore I do not wait for HiFi support there at all.

Cheers to all, and happy listening! Take cheap used Xbox, and be happy with a very useful media device, for many purposes, like video, audio, network, gaming, even CD playing ;-)

Hello Yuriy,

I have Marantz NA6006 streamer and I’m not able to do as you descibed in step 1.

When I start Deezer app on my iPad Pro (2019) and click on Cast to icon I don’t see my Marantz device? Is there some incompatibility with my NA6006 device or..?

Thanks!

BR,

Misa

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Yuriy Nazarov

Guitar Hero

Dear All! I am new here, and would like to share with all Marantz and Denon users my experience of listening Deezer HiFi subscription in 16/44.1 (redbook) quality at home. I will not blame anybody here, I have read all the history, and can confirm only, that till now (28.04.2021) HEOS app, does not stream Deezer HiFi in lossless format to my Marantz PM7000n, at least it shows me “mp3 320 k.bit” in the app, when playing Deezer through the app, having HiFi subscription.

So, how to solve this issue and get to down sampled music streamed wirelessly to you home stereo setup? Here we currently have two options, and I have used them both with pleasure:

For those who have relatively new models of Denon and Marantz items and IPhone or IPad, which support the Airplay 2 protocol via home wi-fi network - simply use this! Exactly 2nd version of Airplay protocol sends the audio via wi-fi to your devices without down sampling (it only converts flac to alac format of the data stream), so your device DAC will get if properly. I got only one problem here: IPhone cannot find my Marantz PM7000n via wi-fi connection due to poor home modem/router (many user face such issue around the world) but it works ideally if you connect your device to LAN with cable! Please check this out!

Both option were perfectly fine to me. Moreover, I tried to play Deezer tracks in Heos app. and realized that the app itself is uncomfortable to use, so I do not like it at all, and therefore I do not wait for HiFi support there at all.

Cheers to all, and happy listening! Take cheap used Xbox, and be happy with a very useful media device, for many purposes, like video, audio, network, gaming, even CD playing ;-)

Hello Yuriy,

I have Marantz NA6006 streamer and I’m not able to do as you descibed in step 1.

When I start Deezer app on my iPad Pro (2019) and click on Cast to icon I don’t see my Marantz device? Is there some incompatibility with my NA6006 device or..?

Thanks!

BR,

Misa

Dear Misa, if your ipad and maranatz already connected to the same network (and this is not the case of trouble) that I think you may be press the wrong button in deezer… in deezer there are two different buttons: one is in the top right conner - is for google cast (there you will not find your marantz as it does not support google cast at all) second button is in the bottom left conner: it is for establishing an Airplay connection..

But, in case you press the right one (bottom left) and you don’t see your marantz, than problem can be in the wifi router (try to connect marantz to your router by cable, and look for it once again in deezer.

B

biker972

Guitar Hero

Dear All! I am new here, and would like to share with all Marantz and Denon users my experience of listening Deezer HiFi subscription in 16/44.1 (redbook) quality at home. I will not blame anybody here, I have read all the history, and can confirm only, that till now (28.04.2021) HEOS app, does not stream Deezer HiFi in lossless format to my Marantz PM7000n, at least it shows me “mp3 320 k.bit” in the app, when playing Deezer through the app, having HiFi subscription.

So, how to solve this issue and get to down sampled music streamed wirelessly to you home stereo setup? Here we currently have two options, and I have used them both with pleasure:

For those who have relatively new models of Denon and Marantz items and IPhone or IPad, which support the Airplay 2 protocol via home wi-fi network - simply use this! Exactly 2nd version of Airplay protocol sends the audio via wi-fi to your devices without down sampling (it only converts flac to alac format of the data stream), so your device DAC will get if properly. I got only one problem here: IPhone cannot find my Marantz PM7000n via wi-fi connection due to poor home modem/router (many user face such issue around the world) but it works ideally if you connect your device to LAN with cable! Please check this out!

Both option were perfectly fine to me. Moreover, I tried to play Deezer tracks in Heos app. and realized that the app itself is uncomfortable to use, so I do not like it at all, and therefore I do not wait for HiFi support there at all.

Cheers to all, and happy listening! Take cheap used Xbox, and be happy with a very useful media device, for many purposes, like video, audio, network, gaming, even CD playing ;-)

Hello Yuriy,

I have Marantz NA6006 streamer and I’m not able to do as you descibed in step 1.

When I start Deezer app on my iPad Pro (2019) and click on Cast to icon I don’t see my Marantz device? Is there some incompatibility with my NA6006 device or..?

Thanks!

BR,

Misa

Dear Misa, if your ipad and maranatz already connected to the same network (and this is not the case of trouble) that I think you may be press the wrong button in deezer… in deezer there are two different buttons: one is in the top right conner - is for google cast (there you will not find your marantz as it does not support google cast at all) second button is in the bottom left conner: it is for establishing an Airplay connection..

But, in case you press the right one (bottom left) and you don’t see your marantz, than problem can be in the wifi router (try to connect marantz to your router by cable, and look for it once again in deezer.

Thanks Yuriy, now it is clear and it works :)

But nowhere I can see that it is lossless stream? On the display I only see Air Play

Y

Yuriy Nazarov

Guitar Hero

Dear All! I am new here, and would like to share with all Marantz and Denon users my experience of listening Deezer HiFi subscription in 16/44.1 (redbook) quality at home. I will not blame anybody here, I have read all the history, and can confirm only, that till now (28.04.2021) HEOS app, does not stream Deezer HiFi in lossless format to my Marantz PM7000n, at least it shows me “mp3 320 k.bit” in the app, when playing Deezer through the app, having HiFi subscription.

So, how to solve this issue and get to down sampled music streamed wirelessly to you home stereo setup? Here we currently have two options, and I have used them both with pleasure:

For those who have relatively new models of Denon and Marantz items and IPhone or IPad, which support the Airplay 2 protocol via home wi-fi network - simply use this! Exactly 2nd version of Airplay protocol sends the audio via wi-fi to your devices without down sampling (it only converts flac to alac format of the data stream), so your device DAC will get if properly. I got only one problem here: IPhone cannot find my Marantz PM7000n via wi-fi connection due to poor home modem/router (many user face such issue around the world) but it works ideally if you connect your device to LAN with cable! Please check this out!

Both option were perfectly fine to me. Moreover, I tried to play Deezer tracks in Heos app. and realized that the app itself is uncomfortable to use, so I do not like it at all, and therefore I do not wait for HiFi support there at all.

Cheers to all, and happy listening! Take cheap used Xbox, and be happy with a very useful media device, for many purposes, like video, audio, network, gaming, even CD playing ;-)

Hello Yuriy,

I have Marantz NA6006 streamer and I’m not able to do as you descibed in step 1.

When I start Deezer app on my iPad Pro (2019) and click on Cast to icon I don’t see my Marantz device? Is there some incompatibility with my NA6006 device or..?

Thanks!

BR,

Misa

Dear Misa, if your ipad and maranatz already connected to the same network (and this is not the case of trouble) that I think you may be press the wrong button in deezer… in deezer there are two different buttons: one is in the top right conner - is for google cast (there you will not find your marantz as it does not support google cast at all) second button is in the bottom left conner: it is for establishing an Airplay connection..

But, in case you press the right one (bottom left) and you don’t see your marantz, than problem can be in the wifi router (try to connect marantz to your router by cable, and look for it once again in deezer.

Thanks Yuriy, now it is clear and it works :)

But nowhere I can see that it is lossless stream? On the display I only see Air Play

Yes, you’re right, you can see only in deezer the hifi mark on the label and trust to Apple that data flow in Airplay is 16/44.1 as they stated. By the way today I have tested second marantz device, actually it was na6006, and have noticed that second device has the same problem with streaming deezer hifi via Airplay to marantz (if to stream the “pink noise” from Stereo Test: Speaker setup album, I hear interruptions in the music flow… and that is consistently in any track streamed to Marantz from Deezer hifi via Airplay((( So I had to stream to my Xbox One S (it receives the stream without interruptions) and then send it via toslink to marantz. I thought that it was only my device problem (7000n) but today i got the same on second device. I recommend you to check it too on yours..