The classical music albums would need much better labeling, please. As music lovers yourself, you certainly appreciate how finding the classical music is greatly improved with good labeling. In practice, they need a different data set than your run-of-the-mill popular music albums.
Take an example: album Mutterissimo (https://www.deezer.com/us/album/14780657), track 1. Which concerto are we listening to, please? I.e. a critical piece of information is missing, the composer.
Take another example: Alfred Bendel Plays Beethoven Volume 3 (https://www.deezer.com/us/album/6462183). This definitely ought to be listed under 'Beethoven, Ludwig van'. If, for some reason, you have to reference the soloist, wouldn't that also be more logical under 'Brendel' than 'Alfred'?
We've been begging for this for ages, all to deaf ears. And this certainly is without any winks or other smilies as we want to be serious about it...
Sigh, again! One of your new albums lacking proper credits because of the sloppy system (let's be generous and not imply it'd be the lack of willingness by management) running this service.
https://www.deezer.com/en/album/87718362
The album has perfectly good data, including your lovely competitor's service. Why not in Deezer???
https://www.deezer.com/en/album/87718362
The album has perfectly good data, including your lovely competitor's service. Why not in Deezer???
In compilation albums sometime you don't even know who you are listening to, as the composer data is just not there.
It's really annoying.
It's really annoying.
I'm sorry to see that Deezer still did not tackle this problem: Incompetent! Summer is coming up. Employ some students and apply the correct naming convention. Because the composer not being in the data is irritating de living daylights out of me.
Nikolaus wrote:
For listeners of a classical music piece, the name of its composer is essential.
I agree. I have been listening to music on several albums by Andrés Segovia. Within the listings for the same album the format is inconsistent. For example, for an album called Icon: Andrés Segovia one track is listed as "Bach, JS: Prelude in C minor, BWV 999", while another is simply "Prelude in E (2008 Remastered Version)".
Hope someone will take this seriously.
I'm starting to report these now as problems and I'd recommend everyone does this, too (in the web interface and album page, go to the "three dots" for this). It's a different approach to being nice and raising it here as a key improvement suggestion.
If the management opt to ignore valuable suggestions, the reporting problems will force the company to react to each and every issue raised individually. Whether they fix it or not is up to them but each album we raise with them has a cost (that funding would be much better used to improve the underlying service instead of tweaking with fonts, navigation menus and the app interface, just saying...).
At the same time, I've been gradually testing Spotify. Their collection and curation seems to be better controlled and thought out.
If the management opt to ignore valuable suggestions, the reporting problems will force the company to react to each and every issue raised individually. Whether they fix it or not is up to them but each album we raise with them has a cost (that funding would be much better used to improve the underlying service instead of tweaking with fonts, navigation menus and the app interface, just saying...).
At the same time, I've been gradually testing Spotify. Their collection and curation seems to be better controlled and thought out.
When you open the popup menu of any track and click the "See contributors" option, it shows the composer. But, as a classical music listener, for me it would be very useful to show the composer's name directly in the track listing, as Spotify does. Maybe only for classical music, or in the cases the composer is different from the album's artist.
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The lack of composer details on albums featuring more than one composer is a serious issue for classical music listeners. Spotify has it and I am considering a switch to them for this reason. If staff at Deezer are too busy to do this, then maybe I can suggest an edit facility where listeners/subscribers can add limited information to an album. This may be useful in correcting wrongly credited albums too.
I have also noticed some omissions, namely Thomas Larcher's ecm recording of Schubert and Schoenberg has the final track missing. It is present on other sites.
Dominique Pifarely's ecm album Trace Provisoire is not here at all that I can see. Again, this is present on other sites.
And finally..... can we have an option to remove the gap between tracks? On albums that originally played continuously a sudden silence between tracks is disconcerting and annoying. An example would be Time is the Key by Pierre Moerlens Gong, where the first four pieces should play continuously, not stop briefly.
I have also noticed some omissions, namely Thomas Larcher's ecm recording of Schubert and Schoenberg has the final track missing. It is present on other sites.
Dominique Pifarely's ecm album Trace Provisoire is not here at all that I can see. Again, this is present on other sites.
And finally..... can we have an option to remove the gap between tracks? On albums that originally played continuously a sudden silence between tracks is disconcerting and annoying. An example would be Time is the Key by Pierre Moerlens Gong, where the first four pieces should play continuously, not stop briefly.
+7Hi there, we are already working on it! But it might take a little while to make sure everything looks good! Thanks everyone for voting!!!
+7Hi there, we're working right now on improving this! Hopefully in the next couple of months it will be way better! Thanks for your patience and feedback!
Everyone talks about improving labeling for classical music, but nothing has happened for months and years. Some changes may be complicated, but there is one thing you can do easily: show the composer's name in compilations! If I get the title "Prelude D major" and I can not see if it's a work by Bach, Kittel, Rinck, Chopin or whoever, the information is completely useless to me. It can not be that difficult to solve at least this simple problem. Spotify can do it, why not Deezer?
Worse, there is not even a working search for composer names. For example, when I search for "Franz Tunder", I get tons of pop songs that contain the word "thunder". At some point, individual works by Franz Tunder will appear, but only occasionally and on albums, where the album title contains the composer’s name, but not on albums containing works by different composers. Again, Spotify can do it better: the search for composer names (also rare ones such as Franz Tunder) is usually interpreted correctly, although there is no provision for a specific search for composers.
For people who also or primarily listen to classical music, Deezer is almost unusable - and this, even though relatively unknown composers and works in principle are available. But what's the value if I can not find it, without having researched the corresponding recordings previously in Google?
As a first step: show composer names! If that does not happen very soon, I'll switch to another provider. As a second step: Allow the targeted search for composer names!
+7Hi there
Thank you for your honest feedback and support. This has been a recurring frustration in our app but we're planning it. I can assure you it hasn't been prioritised for this year, as we have more demanding features coming through. But our product managers and devs are aware of this shortcoming. We've got a dedicated team working on all metadata and we've introduced credits to the tracks. But we know your suggestion is essentially how we'd get this right. The display of songs in our Classical catalogue needs to improve and we'll continue to have this in the pipeline. Thank you for your understanding.
Classical music requires a well thought out metadata scheme. It cannot just be shoved in the standard pop music format title-artist-album. Most serious classical music listeners have programs that can handle any custom metadata scheme and are used to take full advantage of that while searching. I’m glad to hear that the devs are working on it, but saddened that it took so long and some carpet bombing from a musician to get Deezer started. I hope you make good progress, and, please, make sure search works properly more than that it “looks good.”
Best!
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+7Thanks a lot for your support
+7Hi there
We're already working on this but it takes a long time due to the metadata that we get from the distributors. That's why we've marked as implemented, as the work already started and it'll be continuous.
Rudi wrote:
Hi there
We're already working on this but it takes a long time due to the metadata that we get from the distributors. That's why we've marked as implemented, as the work already started and it'll be continuous.
Don't know if this is being implemented as well, but when choosing an opera album for example, all separate items are numbered but all have the full title and due to the limited number of characters they all show up the same in the album listing.
Looks like this :
Album Die Zauberflöte
CD 1
1. Die Zauberflöte, K620..
2. Die Zauberflöte, K620..
3. Die Zauberflöte, K620..
etc
This makes it hard to find the part you want to listen to. Now you have to first play it to see it scroll the full title.
This should automatically be corrected if the databases are setup correctly i suppose.
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+7Very important piece of feedback 
I have just moved over here after a couple of years with Spotify. I feel the metadata for classical music is quite a bit poorer. Much more instances I feel where only movement titles are listed, which in the case of compilations make it really frustrating to identify a work. I hope Deezer can put more effort into this area.
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+7Hi there
You're right, this is an area we fall short. But the teams are increasingly putting more effort and resources to improve this.
We need feedback like yours to ensure this happens. Thank you for your input and contribution.
some problems can be solved if it was possible to see the backside off an album (Tidal can do it)
I have a Deezer hifi subscription and listen to classical music. Classical music is challenging on streaming services, because the album and song names are not standardized. So I usually search by artist. One of my favorites is the pianist Paul Lewis. When I select his recording of the Beethoven piano concertos on the app, the tracks are all scrambled. You get a movement of the first concerto then a movement of the third concerto. Why does this happen? It makes listening to a complete piece of music on Deezer impossible. When I look up the same recording on the desktop app, only two of the five concertos appear to be available. Please take classical music seriously!
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