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One Hit Wonder
January 28, 2024
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plugin for logitech media server

  • January 28, 2024
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Hi there!

would be great if you could provide a plugin for LMS. Since it is easy to install on Raspberry Pi (e.g. PiCorePlayer) and many HiFi output-options exist it would enhance your support for audiophile listeners! At least: provide some details for the login process so that the community can work on a plugin.

Thanks in advance!

67 replies

Rising Star
January 28, 2024

Hello,

Thank you for your idea!

IMHO, It’s better to ask for public APIs that cover all the functionalities offered by Deezer or any kind of solution allowing to get the same result. Why? By doing that you offer a lot of possibilities to the communitie. Moreover It will probably touch more Deezer users as it will allow to solve several issues:

  • Allow third party Hifi Devices (Sonos, Bluesound, Wiim, Denon, Octavio, Sonoro, Nuprime, Triangle, Zidoo...) to benefit from all the Deezer functionalities → This point touches quite a lot of people. Currently, on third party devices, the Deezer functionalities are really poor compared to what you have with the smartphone/tablet app.
  • The use of Deezer via the existing Logitech Squeezebox
  • The use of Deezer via Squeezelite → For devices like Raspberry Pi and all the devices on which you could use Squeezelite
  • The use of Deezer on Raspberry Pi directly without Squeezelite and LMS or any other devices with the appropriated app (to be developped)

You also have a higher probability to see Deezer doing something, ‘one thing’ that will preserve a bigger amount of users / reccuring fees / subscriptions.

One thing is sure, if there is no solution I will have no other choice and will change for another music service (Qobuz, Spotify).

Hitmaker
January 30, 2024

Hi All,

I’m going to sound  a bit pessimistic and I don’t want to come across too negative, but I just can’t see Deezer getting to grips with this technical situation. Lets face it took them years to sort out ‘Gapless Playback’

The technical support team never get to involved in these forums, there is never much participation or updates to report back to us. The only time they got a wee bit involved is when they came up with the crappy Logo and colour scheme.

I have a raspberry pi 4 with a hifiberry digi pro + hat running picoreplayer with LMS and it works great with Deezer, every thing is integrated with my NAS and runs through a FiiO K7 DAC…..sounds great

I’m beginning to think the solution for me is to buy a WiiM Pro as this has the Deezer APP installed on it, and I believe API has been updated in a recent firmware update. I will see how things go over the next few weeks to see if Deezer can come up with a solution. I have been with Deezer for many years and despite a few niggles I enjoy using their service and therefor I am reluctant to move to another Streaming service.

Let’s hope that this technical issue can be resolved soon for the sake of all of the Squeezebox punters that use Deezer. 

Cheers

coypu

Guitar Hero
January 30, 2024

well… I am looking for any solution to have headless player remotely controlled on my Raspberry Pi. LMS with mysqueezebox.com was descent solution but now with mysqueezebox shutdown, this is going down the drain. deezer should either provide support on this or let let some opensource developers create solution without twisting their hand (like they used to in the past)

Guitar Hero
January 30, 2024

Another Deezer subscriber here that uses LMS. I love the Deezer content but if I can’t stream via my LMS/Pi’s/Touch and listen on my HiFi then that’s a deal breaker for me and I’m sure many other LMS users.

Surely a way can be found to develop/release an API that enables Deezer subscribers to access this great content and allows the fantastic LMS community to incorporate into the LMS plugin ecosystem.

I don’t want to have to go the Spotify route, but will if a solution to this can’t be found which would be a real shame.

Come on Deezer make it happen!

Roadie
January 31, 2024

 

Hi everyone.

Yesterday I took a long time to understand the evolution on the third party player, not developed by the Deezer team, but using the Deezer API. I wrote a mini-player on Linux OS 8 years ago (just to test the Deezer API) and at that time it was possible to get an mp3 stream url to open with a music player.

Authentication was very simple: login/password of the Deezer account and you had a session to interact with the old version of the API.

The Deezer team decided to change the API to be more secure (oAuth2 for authentication). This means that to access the new version of the API, you will need to delegate authentication to the Deezer form. This change is very important because on the solution hosted on the mysqueezebox.com server, you need to save your Deezer credentials to create a Deezer session with the old API.

This is a potential security hole in case the mysqueezebox.com server is hacked. I hope that Deezer has developed its own API for Logitech to avoid storing the credentials in a database. This development could be implemented by the people in charge of mysqueezebox.com.
 

But the second main problem (and I think this is a blocking point), with the new version of the API, it is no longer possible to get the music stream URL to inject into a music player. The player has to be developed and managed using the Deezer SDK. This means that for all players based on Linux and with an open source community, it will no longer be possible to develop a Deezer player.

I may be wrong in my analysis, but technically I am not very confident.

I took a look at the Spotify implementation (which uses the Spotify connect sdk). The solution is better and already in place with squeezebox, picoreplayer and co. I need to do more testing with a premium account to see how it works, but I think there is no other solution unless the Deezer team works with our community.

Rising Star
January 31, 2024

I chose Deezer specifically for the LMS integration. Without it… I guess Deezer loses another paying customer.

Come on Deezer. If you want to compete, and Spotify works on LMS, why not support those who want to ensure your paid-for service is played on as many devices as possible? Technical assistance is what is required and let the community develop the solution for you.

 

Win-win!

gdchillnew
Rising Star
Rising Star
February 1, 2024

Here is another deezer-HIFI and LMS user. It would nice to get a solution for deezer on LMS after the shutdown of mysqueezebox in February.

Roadie
February 1, 2024

FYI : it is possible to to subscribe to Spotify with one month free. So I tried the Spotify service just to compare.

Finally, it is very easy to install the Spotify plugin with LMS.

there is also a service on Internet to transfer your playlist from deezer to Spotify (it take just few seconds)

after the migration, I retrieve all the music tracks that had on the deezer platform, accessible from squeezebox, picoreplayer, iPeng, and my pioneer HomeCinema.

You have just to adapt your usage concerning the deezer flow service to the equivalent with Spotify.

in term of price : it is equivalent.

so my experience is successful.

my only regret is that deezer is a French company, and as a French, I would have prefered to support it.

so in one month, if deezer team does not want to support and collaborate with the squeezebox community, I will say bye, bye

Guitar Hero
February 2, 2024

Hi all.

 

Is it worth trying to contact these guys (and gal)?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeronimofolgueira/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/floriantissot/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanakirkbride/

 

I really don’t want to have to go down the Spotify path, they can’t even do true CD quality - been waiting years and still no sign. Deezer also pay artists more so it’s a no-brainer for me to try and continue to use Deezer.

 

cheers, w7r

gdchillnew
Rising Star
Rising Star
February 4, 2024

I hope deezer doesn’t ignore this topic. I’m already testing alternatives. It would be nice if there was any reaction from deezer at all.