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Ultimate Superstar
July 19, 2020
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Option to remove karaoke versions or tribute bands from search

  • July 19, 2020
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When I'm bored at home and I'm on the internet,
I'm searching for my favourite songs to listen next.
But all I see on the screen are tribute bands and karaoke’s.

It sort of sounds the same but it just isn't quite right.
It sounds like it's slowish and bassline is sleeping night.
What have they done to this song, tell me why?

I don't want to see Karaoke or "tribute" versions of tunes in my search results.

I just want the the original tune (or cover versions by legit artists). How can I turn these not-so-good versions off and only get "official" results? This should be fixed already, what takes?

Please remove karaoke and tribute bands

For so long I scroll on Cascada - Miracle search over these tribute bands and karaoke versions.

I have no interest listening to karaoke versions of songs. Nor do I use any karaoke devices. 

Nor do I see any value in tribute bands.

These karaoke and tribute bands only make a mess in search, making actual tracks I want to find big procedure, taking my valuable free time. Please please make option to make optional.

I don't wanna to look forever for a track
There's a millions songs on search I can't relate
From endless karaoke to tribute trap
Sometimes it's the biggest assortment there is

Is there anyone else or is it just me? Add your Kudos!!!

14 replies

Guitar Hero
July 20, 2020

I'd also remove collections, compilations, remastered, etc. from search.

hpguruAuthor
Ultimate Superstar
July 20, 2020

I'd also remove collections, compilations, remastered, etc. from search.

Yes, this is good to add. All this takes up so much space and makes searching harder.

I honestly do not see myself wasting time on Studio Allstars Karaoke or In the Style of Cascada Tribute Band, these add no value to my life taking time searching for what I listen.

Also you can not shuffle search and expect artist music only as it will shuffle from these tribute and karaoke bands also. Not even including remastered etc. in search. Big issue.

Rising Star
August 31, 2020

Yes, PLEASE do this.  It’s so annoying to continually weed out karaoke and tribute bands.

I mean, I LOVE cover songs and I actually collect really awesome covers….but most of these bands are very vanilla and generic and know that they are. Keywords like Karaoke and tribute should be very obvious to filter out unless someone specifically wants this kind of music.

Rising Star
April 8, 2021

As someone who worked in the past on developing search engines, I want to comment that usually it’s better not to remove things from the search, but instead of have smarter ranking (order) of the result, and in fact this is how Google won out over all the search engines which preceded it:

 

You searched for “cascada miracle”. What (I think...) is bothering you is not that there are 50 different covers, remixes, etc. - once in a blue moon these versions might even be interesting. The bigger problem for you (I am guessing) is that the “good” versions you wanted to find were hard to find between all the “bad” versions. The traditional solution, then, is to rank (i.e., sort) the results based on “goodness” of the song, not just on textual match to your search words. Just like searching for “deezer” on Google finds the best site (i.e. Deezer’s homepage) and not some silly site which repeats the word “deezer” 100 times in sequence.

 

A search engine calls the inherent “goodness” of a result - unrelated to the particular query - a “static score”, or “boost”. Google, for example, uses the PageRank algorithm to decide which sites are more “important” than others - for example deezer.com is important as a lot of other sites link to it, while my.home.page/my/thoughts/on/deezer.html is less “important”, and the search “deezer” will return it lower in the list of results.

 

So, how would Deezer know which of the “cascada miracle” matches are more “important” than others? Deezer could implement some basic heuristics - e.g., that the words “kareoke” or “in the style of” reduce a song’s importance. But Deezer can do something even better: it knows which songs are liked by many people (hearted, saved in playlists, actually played, etc.), and can boost the scores of more highly liked or more highly played songs. It is very likely that you are not the first person searching for this song, and most of the previous listeners probably ended up finding the “good” one and playing it to completion, and/or favoriting it - so Deezer can automaticaly build on that knowledge.

Using the popularity of a song as its static score - instead of some naive heuristics like “kareoke”, can also help when the difference between versions is more subtle than the obvious kareoke vs regular. For some songs, there are multiple official versions from the original band - sometimes various masterings, a few slightly different mixes or edits, re-recordings, and so on. It is not always obvious which version “better”. Here too Deezer can benefit from the wisdom of the crowd: The “better” version is, quite simply, the version which more listeners listen to, add to their favorites, and so on. If Deezer’s search brings this “better” version first on the result list, it becomes much easier to find the right song.

Guitar Hero
June 17, 2021

what the heck, not one comment from Deezer on this topic! I feel Deezer is trying to cheap out and not pay royalties for original songs so they play BS like right now my favorites are selected and Deezer decides that “ A Freylekhe Nakht In Gan Eyed - The Klezmer Conservatory band”  is now one of my favorites? I never heard of this and I would not have added it

One Hit Wonder
February 21, 2023

I’m so angry at Deezer as it plays so many covers in Flow. I’m not all the time next to the computer/phone so I have to go for it to change the song since I hate covers. I’m so frustrated that if it’s not gonna change I’ll quit Deezer and choose Tidal/Spotify.

Yula
Deezer Staff
Deezer Staff
July 6, 2023
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Rising Star
July 6, 2023

Yula, you merged two completely unrelated requests :-( Did you actually read the questions and the answers before merging?

GropplerZorn
Superuser
Superuser
July 6, 2023

Yula, you merged two completely unrelated requests :-( Did you actually read the questions and the answers before merging?

Hmmm.

The request (complaint) in this thread :

“Songs in my deezer playlist (Flow) are being replaced by the deezer algorithm with songs of the same name, but from a different artist.”

The request (complaint) in the merged thread:

“Songs in my deezer playlist (any) are being replaced by the deezer algorithm with songs of the same name, but from a different album.”

I don’t know enough about the deezer algorithm or software to know if these issues might be solved by a similar, or even the same, software adjustment by the deezer developers. Do you?

 

Deezer Legend
Rising Star
July 6, 2023

GropplerZorn, it seems you didn’t understand the issues either :-(

The request in this thread: “I’m typing ‘cascada miracle’ in the search box and getting a long list of silly Kareoke versions of it”.

The request in the other thread: “I put a specific song on a playlist, a song which I found in a specific album, and a while later, when I go to look at the playlist, it forgot which album it took the song from and tells me it’s from a compilation album (it’s not a kareoke version, it’s exactly the same song and singer and same version, it just refers to a different album that contains that song)”.

I see absolutely no connection between the two requests.