Gapless playback between tracks

Engn_2003 wrote:

Is there any way that we can get smooth music passes. I mean it could so nice in house parties. Like dj programs. When you change the song current song will turn off the volume then new music will volume increase very slowly

Hey there, I moved your idea to this existing conversation, take a look and don't forget to vote for it 😉

Gapless should be the #1 priority for all platforms at the present time. Spreading the app to new platforms without first fixing this is only going to leave a bad impression on potential customers. You are altering the artistic intent of the music by inserting pauses in albums. Fix this first, then spread. It will pay off more in the long run. The main attraction of Deezer is the sound quality of the Hi Fi option, but that isn't worth anything if these pauses persist.

I just subscribed to Deezer HIFI. But i listen to mixes all the time, so it was the first thing i noticed.. no gapless support. Gapless is mandatory for me. I think i am going to unsubscribe and stick to Tidal. Unacceptable for me for the mixes to get interrupted.

tkn wrote:

Just adding my vote for proper gapless playback across all systems and platforms. Currently, I’m auditioning Tidal and Deezer as a possible lossless replacement for Spotify. Tidal (arguably) has the edge on pure sound quality (MQA for some albums), but has horrible UI and UX. Spotify wins on usability hands down, but no lossless. Deezer seems like it could be the happy middle ground, but the lack of gapless is a real knock against it. Too bad.

Exactly, couldn't agree more.

Please add the ability to enable crossfade in the Deezer settings, so songs will blend more seamlessly when listening to a playlist. Please also allow users to select the crossfade time, for example between 1-12 seconds.

Hi @hdhurter we offer this option on several platforms. Which one do you mean it should be added?

This is really MANDATORY. Now: crossfade IS NOT gapless playback. Deezer say crossfade is their solution but it's not, sorry. Crossfade is good for playlists, gapless is the only way to respect the way artists conceived their work (should I mention The Dark Side of the Moon?).

Thanks @Flo.Deezer. The crossfade feature is not supported on Android, Windows, Chromecast or Alexa. It would be great if crossfade could be introduced on Android and Windows BETA App at least. I know the other two platforms would pose technical difficulties in this regard.

Did they explain which players?

Creare un miscelamento tra i brani di coda con una semplice dissolvenza

This is getting really ridiculous. Deezer, wth, gapless has been constantly around since the '80s, it was meant as a way to express/compose music, not a futuristic gimmick. You're killing the feeling. You're disregarding/disrespecting the artists. You're ruining brilliant ideas. You're destroying the mood. You're just stubbornly headbutting music.
You are saying crossfade is your answer for this. You gotta be kidding me. Name one, just one artist, any artist, which says crossfade is fine for their gapless album. You say crossfade is the answer. But you only support crossfade on the web player. Where's your answer for gapless on Android or Windows? How's this called? Hypocrisy?
It cannot be your call how one's music is served to the masses, it has to be the artist's call.
The technology is there for you to use and implement gapless, but you don't. You either have very poor developers or a mediocre project leader with communist mentality. I'm not sorry for being hard on you.
You're releasing features with the speed of a snail, but you're expecting us to pay and pay and pay very quickly. Well, this is not how business is done in the software company I work for. Stop thinking like geek and nerd developers, your products are oriented towards art and people, not robots.
Once and for all, crossfade is not equal to gapless! When are you going to learn this?

@elektroinside I agree. It should be easy to implement gapless. If it's a technical problem I'd be glad to know...I can live with that, but it would be a pity.

If it's a technical problem, they should seek for help from somebody more competent. It's not that easy to implement gapless on all platforms, but not impossible. Others have done it. But they just throw that nonsense reply at us every time, like a call center narator reading the same text over and over: "our solution for gapless is crossfade". Bleah.

Hey everyone, all topics about gapless playback have been moved into this idea so we can keep better track of the demand and everyone can show their support by voting for it to be implemented 🙂

Signed up with trial for high quality music. First album listened = pink Floyd dark side of the moon. I like live music including DJ mixes. Unsubscribed. Remember the same problems with music in the 90s...

@Daniel Pugh
crossfade could help but let’s be honest...gapless playback is the only way 🙂

Can't see a cross-fade on Android and it's a bit pants - again remembering botched gapless implementations from when I was a young lad where "cross-fade" was provided as a holding ploy while developers think long and hard...

Daniel Pugh wrote:

Can't see a cross-fade on Android and it's a bit pants - again remembering botched gapless implementations from when I was a young lad where "cross-fade" was provided as a holding ploy while developers think long and hard...

Crossfade (when present, it isn't on Android) only works acceptably well when silence is cut of at the end of the currently playing track and the beginning of the next. If the total silence of both tracks is greater then the configured crossfade time, you won't hear it, making it completely useless.

This means:

1. Somebody at Deezer should decide an acceptable level when the cutting of the silence should occur on both tracks. -20db is usually good enough, but it's a matter of perception and tastes in the end
2. This means the current track needs processing "ahead", the current track should be cached,then analyzed & processed (detect "the end of the track", detect the silence, cutoff from a certain point)
3. The next track should also be cached (and the "next track" can be tricky, depending if the user changes it or automatically played from a temporary list of songs, also depends on how well the internet connection works, format containers etc.)
4. The next track should also be processed "ahead", before the current song is done playing, and before the cutoff kicks in, exactly like the end of the current song
5. For best results, fade-out of the current song and fade-in of the next song (after the cutoff kicks in) is mandatory
6. The playing obviously should occur from the cache, not realtime. This is also difficult to control from a UX pov, as the user expects to hear the song almost immediately when he clicks on "next". So the cache needs to be built dynamically, in small chunks of data, not to hear a big gap between his actions, but cache takes a bit of time to build.
7. And finally, when everything is processed, both pieces (end of the current song, beginning of the next) should play at the same time. This means another cursor, different from the cutoff, and should be equal with the configured crossfade time.

So crossfade is technically even more complicated than gapless. Both can work in certain situations, but they will never work perfectly in "any situation". This has to be something the user understands. Deezer needs to understand that each offer a completely different perception for the user and only one of them is controlled (when allowed) by the artist: gapless. Nothing else is important for the artist.

Considering everything I just said here, gapless should be a much higher priority option and crossfade just a "good to have" feature.

Why isn't there a crossfade function on Android version of Deezer. This would be so cool for "mixing" your playlists ?

There's a crossfade on the Apple version of Deezer so why not on Android ???

Come on Deezer.......get it sorted !

It would be awesome to have a crossfade feature, like Spotify have.

Why no crossfade available on Android, google home etc. Is this planned? I may have to defect to Spotify.
Plesse advise.
Thanks.

Hi @leBarX you can vote for this idea here in the ideas forum. Hopefully we can offer this soon on Android 😉

I love the premise and concept of Deezer , I just wonder why the Deezer development team hasn't considered crossfading and gapless audio incoporated in the audio settings . Would love that it will make my Deezer app complete 😄
Thanks

For those who posted in this thread. Crossfade is currently available in the Deezer BETA app which means it may soon be available in the stable version. To gain access to this feature now, sign up for the Deezer Android BETA and follow the steps. After installation go to Settings > Deezer Labs > Crossfade duration. I have noticed an issue with crossfade if a track is set to repeat (it clips the end of the song) but this is a minor issue that will hopefully be resolved soon.

CROSSFADE IS BROKEN!
I'm in the beta program.
This provides a crossfade feature.
I've set the delay to zero seconds.
As everyone knows, crossfade set at
zero seconds provides gapless playback,
And if correctly implemented, is identical
to Gapless.

There is an error in the coding write of
crossfade, became at zero seconds,
crossfade should cede to no-break.

I was the Program originator for crossfade,
back in 1972. After this sucess, I went on to
produce my first album, Pink Floyds, Dark
Side of the Moon, before going on to produce
Mike Oldfields Tubular Bells. 🤔

I've got both Roger Walters and Mike Oldfield
sitting next to me. They both love Deezer. But
the lack of Gapless playback makes them very
sad. (Roger is actually crying)

Please fix Deezer and do Gapless playback.
Thanks in advance from me, Roger and Mike.