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One Hit Wonder
March 16, 2019
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Can you please add gender non-specified as a gender option

  • March 16, 2019
  • 36 replies
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well, the title says it all. It feels uncomfortable for me like this and i think other people who feel this way will be really grateful too. thanks for helping.

    36 replies

    Ultimate Superstar
    September 9, 2020

    Please make any info correct. I know some cases where user provided company with fake email, fake data of birthday, and what else. All not right. His account was hacked, and he had subscription on it. Paying for that. No option to verify customer since he didn’t know his account details.

    You are either man or woman, what to hide?

    One girl has forgotten password, she was not able to recover it, since email was not known by her, since it was not personal and she couldn’t verify account for her name with data she needed.

    Everything you add to Deezer, as personal, stays personal.

    Guitar Hero
    September 9, 2020

     

    Everything you add to Deezer, as personal, stays personal.

     

    I doubt it. We talk about data and information technology where nothing is secure.

    It’s a matter of informational self-determation and personal data economy.

    In your logic I should give a company as much information as possible to identify me. Scary.

    Ultimate Superstar
    September 9, 2020

     

    Everything you add to Deezer, as personal, stays personal.

     

    I doubt it. We talk about data and information technology where nothing is secure.

    It’s a matter of informational self-determation and personal data economy.

    In your logic I should give a company as much information as possible to identify me. Scary.

    Most people give it already using Microsoft, Google, Facebook and Apple eco systems.

    It is important to opt out, I hope they will add it.

    Roadie
    September 9, 2020

    Hey @Sergi.Sanz @Em1 @stevenomes @RinTheHuman @Saschimi 

    Thank you all for your comments, feedback and honesty. I'll be forwarding everything to our teams here at Deezer in order to reinforce the need for this improvement :v_tone2:

    Thanks. I hope something comes of it soon.

     

    You are either man or woman, what to hide?

    Uh, you’re either a man or a woman… except if you’re not. For me it’s less about privacy and more about the invalidation of non-binary identities. But privacy matters too, which is why I think it‘s best to have both an other/non-binary option and an unspecified/not given option.

    Rudi
    Ultimate Superstar
    Ultimate Superstar
    September 10, 2020

    Thanks for coming back and helping the discussion everyone - @Em1 @hpguru @Saschimi 

    Your info is definitely secure - I'm a user myself so I can assure you we take this very very seriously.

    About the gender option, it can be used in different ways, for different purposes - but the good news is that I've chased the teams for this (working in 2 big departments) and they confirmed they're currently working on it :grinning:

    Stay tuned, as soon as I have more info, I'll be writing here :thumbsup_tone2:

    Roadie
    September 21, 2020

    I want to try Deezer as an alternative to Spotify - but I can’t signup without either saying I’m Male or Female and giving my age.

    You state ( https://www.deezer.com/legal/personal-datas )that Deezer collects gender and age data to personalise adverts, but also that I can disable that.

    If I disable advert personalisation, you no longer have any reason to store my gender (or age) - do I have to make a GDPR request just to have you remove it?

    As a side note: Since your Terms & Conditions require accurate information (Article 7 “The Subscriber agrees to provide true, accurate and genuine information about himself/herself in connection with his/her registration with the Site and the Deezer Web Service.”) - by only providing two genders you’re dsicriminating against non-binary people. This is illegal in the EU (who you allow as customers since you have the GDPR addition).

     

    Solution: You don’t have to pretend to care about people’s identity - just make the field optional and people who still want to use Deezer despite your ideologies can do so legally.

    Rudi
    Ultimate Superstar
    Ultimate Superstar
    September 22, 2020

    Hey @Patabugen 

    Thank you so much for your detailed and honest feedback. You've made so many good points.

    Yes, we can change things but we've got some dedicated teams now at Deezer looking at how to make this work properly so that you know that we really care about our users' identity. This is also so that we carry out a transition, compliant with GDPR, to the right ways of storing this type of customer data. We're working in the background to complete this. Please bear with us until we get it right :v_tone2:

    In the meantime, I'll forward your comments internally at Deezer so that everyone is aware of the impact this is causing.

    Roadie
    October 20, 2020

    Waiting for a change

    Rudi
    Ultimate Superstar
    Ultimate Superstar
    October 21, 2020

    We're making huge strides on this internally @RivCro 

    We don't want just to add another option, we want to make it right :relaxed: stay tuned, our community team is also waiting for updates on this :thumbsup_tone2:

    Roadie
    December 14, 2020

    please update! i know people who dislike the binary options and make them uncomfortable.
    Thanks in advance :)