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Shuffle mode is USELESS

  • October 14, 2025
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I have a paid account with Deezer.  I have one playlist that contains hundreds of songs that I would like too listen to in an order that surprises me, which, I believe is the function of the SHUFFLE mode.  When I use the shuffle function on either the Deezer smartphone app, or via Alexa, I get some horrendous, hallucinating, AI DJ mix that repeats the same songs over and over, tries to organize them by genre, and consistently plays two different artist versions of the same song one after the other. 

It NEVER, NEVER, NEVER plays a great many of the songs in my playlist.  This sucks.  It’s easily fixed ON YOUR END.  I don’t know, because I believe you don’t make public your algorithm, but it seems likely that you are trying to minimize licensing costs somehow, rather than providing a true shuffle function.  If your customers enjoy that function as it exists, let them continue to have them, but give us an option to play songs randomly.  It’s ok to have some algorithm that avoids randomly selecting the same song too soon. 

I am ready to cancel Deezer over this issue.

 

Best answer by GropplerZorn

Hey there ​@Jim Gallagher 

Getting a true shuffle is something I think every service and algorithm struggles with. I can’t think of a single streamer that has mastered it, and the various forums out there (as well as my personal experience) support this.

Your conspiracy theory is pretty wild and I’m not even sure how deezer playing one song over another would save them money, but ok.

Have you tried splitting your playlist up into smaller playlists? From what I read, shuffle functions seem to be more successful that way. Maybe 4x100 songs in playlists instead of 400 in one, for example. Might be worth a shot.

If you end up leaving, I’ll just say thank you for being a subscriber and I hope it works out better for you wherever you land. All services have their strengths and weaknesses and we all have to choose what’s best for us.

Enjoy your music.

 

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  • October 14, 2025

Hey there ​@Jim Gallagher 

Getting a true shuffle is something I think every service and algorithm struggles with. I can’t think of a single streamer that has mastered it, and the various forums out there (as well as my personal experience) support this.

Your conspiracy theory is pretty wild and I’m not even sure how deezer playing one song over another would save them money, but ok.

Have you tried splitting your playlist up into smaller playlists? From what I read, shuffle functions seem to be more successful that way. Maybe 4x100 songs in playlists instead of 400 in one, for example. Might be worth a shot.

If you end up leaving, I’ll just say thank you for being a subscriber and I hope it works out better for you wherever you land. All services have their strengths and weaknesses and we all have to choose what’s best for us.

Enjoy your music.

 


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  • October 14, 2025

My conspiracy theory is pretty wild, and based on ignorance, admittedly.  However, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that some tracks have lower royalties than others.  I would guess, and I stress the word guess, that songs  that are out of copyright are cheaper, and I do have a lot of old blues songs in my playlist.  I don’t know how the music industry works, but I suspect that it is complicated, and I have to doubt that songs from Taylor Swift’s new album cost Deezer the same as an obscure indie tune.  I could be wrong.  It’s possible that Swift is paid less per song, in order too enhance her revenue, and encourage streamers to serve up her music.  All I know, as a former IT guy, is that Deezer is not implementing something that should be trivial, just randomly selecting tunes instead of curating them.  They choose not to divulge why, so I’m left with conspiracies.

 

But thank you for the respectful response, and I may try your suggestion, to see if that helps, though it sounds like it might be a ton of mouse clicks to accomplish.  The other suggestion I have seen, is to export the playlist to a third party site that will randomize it, and then upload the playlist to Deezer again.  That also sounds like a lot of work, for something that is meant to be pleasurable, but I may also give that a try.  My hope would be that Deezer would give us that option in an automated way, so i could periodically randomize the order and avoid that shuffle feature entirely.

 

 

 


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  • Guitar Hero
  • October 16, 2025

Some more feedback, in case I’m not the only person for whom the shuffle mode with playlists is completely broken.  ChatGPT led me down a rabbit hole to use the Deezer API connection to automate resorting my playlist.  According to ChatGPT (I know, not completely reliable) Deezer no long makes the key available to use in a python script.  OK, maybe for good reasons, maybe not.  So, I investigated a third party tool that allows me to download, sort, and upload a Deezer playlist.  This actually works, though the free version of the tool only allows up to 500 tracks.

For me, the best option is to split my playlist into chunks smaller than 500 tracks, sort, and upload to Deezer.   I will have to do this fairly frequently, when I get tired of hearing the first tracks every time I access the playlist (yes, shuffle is still broken, even on the smaller playlists).  This is a pain, and Deezer could, and should, make it unnecessary.

It is true that Deezer is not alone in this perverse version of “shuffle”.  Amazon music and Spotify both have similar disfunction.  The motivation of the streaming platforms have for doing this is difficult for me to understand.  If anyone knows of a music service that doesn’t try  to curate my playlists in shuffle mode, please respond.

 

 


GropplerZorn
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  • October 16, 2025

@Jim Gallagher I have tried, literally, every single streaming service out there and it seems to be an issue with all of them.

I’m starting to think it’s a technical limitation of some sort that we as humankind have been unable to overcome. Perhaps when our robot overlords take charge, they will grace us with a true shuffle function for the streaming services (that are now listenable via our cranial implants).


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  • Guitar Hero
  • October 16, 2025

Yes, we can but comply, and pray for mercy!😝


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  • Guitar Hero
  • October 17, 2025

Update #2, should anyone care:  ChatGPT directed me to Steve Aleong’s website (search for “Steven Aleong Deezer Randomizer”).  His Deezer randomizer will permanently resequence your playlist.  Then you just play the playlist, not in the infuriating shuffle mode, and you will get a truly random track selection.  You have to randomize periodically, but that is a quick and painless process.  I can’t resist the snark of mentioning that Deezer could implement this option on its desktop site. Might take an afternoon.