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Guitar Hero
July 20, 2019
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shuffle isn't RANDOM... it always repeats a pattern of songs

  • July 20, 2019
  • 42 replies
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random isn't patterns !!!
pls fix !!!!!!
Best answer by Rafael.
Hi Octavian, this is how it works, but we will keep passing this feedback on to our devs and hopefully they will be able to improve this feature soon!

42 replies

Guitar Hero
January 14, 2021

I’ve been a Deezer Premium user for about two months and overall I like it but I can’t but second this tread’s general opinion that the Shuffle feature is not working as expected. Actually it just sucks

I’m using on my own list of favorites while jogging, initially I thought the list was still too short (~80 songs as I was transitioning from the lousy Youtube Music) but now I’ve got around triple that size and I’m still presented with the 10 or 20 songs I’ve added in the beginning.

You should really fix it.

Thanks

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
January 16, 2021

Thanks for the feedback @seaan 

Fair point! Could you please let us know in what device and app feature you're experiencing this?

Guitar Hero
January 19, 2021

Thanks for the feedback @seaan 

Fair point! Could you please let us know in what device and app feature you're experiencing this?

Hi,

I have a playlist I am listening to while running on my mobile.

I just play that playlist using the “random” option: the playlist contains 90+ songs.

Unfortunately, in order for this feedback to be complete I should provide more comprehensive statistics. I’m going to monitor more closely the playing patterns of that playlist and report back

 

Ultimate Superstar
January 19, 2021

Thanks for the feedback @seaan 

Fair point! Could you please let us know in what device and app feature you're experiencing this?

Hi,

I have a playlist I am listening to while running on my mobile.

I just play that playlist using the “random” option: the playlist contains 90+ songs.

Unfortunately, in order for this feedback to be complete I should provide more comprehensive statistics. I’m going to monitor more closely the playing patterns of that playlist and report back

Your feedback is really valuable for Deezer to improve.

They are navigating and collecting it here, so keep posting. I do that posting too.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
January 20, 2021

Very valuable indeed @seaan really appreciate the tests you're carrying out, that's the only way we can improve - with the support of our users :thumbsup_tone2:

386cz
Roadie
Roadie
January 23, 2021

I think shuffle is generate only one time and it will remain the same, as long as you still play the same album or playlist.

If you want to re-shuffle, play a song that is not in the playlist. then get back to the playlist and play again.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
January 25, 2021

That, for the time being, can be an excellent workaround, @386cz please keep it up and share more of your Deezer findings with us :thumbsup_tone2:

Guitar Hero
March 26, 2021

Pretty sure FLOW does the same thing, it's not random at all and is beginning to annoy even though I like most of the song it plays.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
March 27, 2021

It'll get some serious improvements this year @bremg :sunglasses: stay tuned, and for now, thank you for your feedback!

Roadie
August 2, 2022

Hi, 

I have a similar experience that neither shuffle nor flow is good at sampling from a large range of songs.  

The “daily” lists are the same every day---that doesn’t seem to make much sense, either. 

Moreover, the order of a shuffled list appears the same every time (it wouldn’t be a very good thing if you would shuffle a deck of playing cards this way).  

These effects are especially strong on Google Home music infrastructure, in fact, the “shuffle” icon disappears immediately once you cast the playlist to the Google Home, so I guess that that infrastructure doesn’t have native shuffling.  And when your playlist is already in “shuffled” order, it is in always the same (shuffled) order.  You would want shuffling to take shuffling seriously, and shuffle the list at runtime in a different order with uniform prior over the songs, each time you switch to shuffled mode.  Every programming environment has access to a reasonably good random number generator that can be initialized with a unique seed.