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Hi Res vs 24bit 96Khz Formats

  • 8 April 2024
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I’ve just recently discovered where I can view the format of songs that are in play. (i.e. bottom left of the album cover playing) That’s great to know, but on the topic of format, I find that research of the HiRes format yields different information in that the description of HiRes varies from reviewer or purveyor to reviewer or purveyor. I read yesterday that true HiRes is a format ABOVE the 16 bit categories, and is 24 bit. But in Deezer, HiRes is defined 16bit  44100hz.

So, my question is whether or not 24bit 96000hz is an option or a planned option in Deezer? I’m an immigrant to Deezer from TIDAL, where I enjoyed very much the 24bit 96Khz format. Being aware that music listening is very much a subjective experience, I realize that the difference I now notice in Deezer may be somewhat psychological. Maybe!

Can anyone here provide a decent layman’s explanation of the production differences between HiRes (including which description defines it best) and whatever 24bit 96Khz is called?

I listen to my music through a McIntosh amplifier running two Focal loudspeakers. It’s entry level to the high end audiophile world, but I can hear differences between hi fi and lo fi reproductions, and I swear there are times when it sounds like I’ve been downgraded since joining Deezer. I’m open to being corrected, of course. 

Christ Follower and Progressive Rock Aficionado

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borut
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HiRes is great, but the music made available by many artists is not always recorded in good quality. In order to feel the good power of the music it has to be a good studio where the artists will record it really professionally for sharing. Granted, there is less and less inferior sound in streaming, but it happens. 

Good Music with HI-Res only for good listen :D
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But in Deezer, HiRes is defined 16bit  44100hz.

Actually, Deezer describes it as HiFi. And that means CD quality. Everything above that is considered HiRes.

I don't know whether Deezer will even consider ever offering HiRes.

borut
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I think it depends on the willing, the cost would increase and the subscription would not be cheap. Only 2 steraming services offers very good HiRes, it is Qoubuz, Tidal. Qubuz has a smaller music base than Tidal. 
I don't know how much Deezer can afford, but it's worth a try - it would give some upside and competition to Spotify and the rest, as many people benefit from linking their available songs to Deezer.

Good Music with HI-Res only for good listen :D
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I think it depends on the willing, the cost would increase and the subscription would not be cheap. Only 2 steraming services offers very good HiRes, it is Qoubuz, Tidal. Qubuz has a smaller music base than Tidal. 
I don't know how much Deezer can afford, but it's worth a try - it would give some upside and competition to Spotify and the rest, as many people benefit from linking their available songs to Deezer.

Apple Music and Amazon Music also offer hi-res. Tidal’s catalog is still polluted with MQA.

and the topic of whether it will be offered by deezer has been discussed in the forums at length for anyone interested in more reading. A search will show the threads.

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A few things to consider. Most of the Qobuz and Tidal catalogues are in CD quality, not HiRes, the ability to stream in a higher resolution stream does not mean you are in fact getting a “higher” quality of music. And as well, that listening experience depends much more on the quality of recording and mastering than it does the stream, compression and so forth. How one streams is a concern as Airplay 1 supports CD quality and Airplay 2 is certainly lossy, thus a lower quality stream. Numerous blind tests show that the vast majority of users with a high resolving sound system still cannot tell the difference between CD and HiRes, when in fact it is the quality of recordings (not streams) that are often giving a better listening experience. My vote would go towards a Deezer Connect option that would control, for example, my KEF wireless system that would allow the highest quality to be achieved without the laggy downside of Airplay 1.

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A few things to consider. Most of the Qobuz and Tidal catalogues are in CD quality, not HiRes, the ability to stream in a higher resolution stream does not mean you are in fact getting a “higher” quality of music. And as well, that listening experience depends much more on the quality of recording and mastering than it does the stream, compression and so forth. How one streams is a concern as Airplay 1 supports CD quality and Airplay 2 is certainly lossy, thus a lower quality stream. Numerous blind tests show that the vast majority of users with a high resolving sound system still cannot tell the difference between CD and HiRes, when in fact it is the quality of recordings (not streams) that are often giving a better listening experience. My vote would go towards a Deezer Connect option that would control, for example, my KEF wireless system that would allow the highest quality to be achieved without the laggy downside of Airplay 1.

I’ll try Deezer connect again, but last time I couldn’t get it to work. I also don’t use Airplay - Android user here. 

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A few things to consider. Most of the Qobuz and Tidal catalogues are in CD quality, not HiRes, the ability to stream in a higher resolution stream does not mean you are in fact getting a “higher” quality of music. And as well, that listening experience depends much more on the quality of recording and mastering than it does the stream, compression and so forth. How one streams is a concern as Airplay 1 supports CD quality and Airplay 2 is certainly lossy, thus a lower quality stream. Numerous blind tests show that the vast majority of users with a high resolving sound system still cannot tell the difference between CD and HiRes, when in fact it is the quality of recordings (not streams) that are often giving a better listening experience. My vote would go towards a Deezer Connect option that would control, for example, my KEF wireless system that would allow the highest quality to be achieved without the laggy downside of Airplay 1.

I’ll try Deezer connect again, but last time I couldn’t get it to work. I also don’t use Airplay - Android user here. 

Also, thanks for the reply. 

Christ Follower and Progressive Rock Aficionado

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