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January 16, 2019

[FEEDBACK] What do you think of "Flow"?

  • January 16, 2019
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Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!
Pinned Reply By hpguru

I was also at first disappointed with the recommendations, but you need to learn Flow.  Play play play, everything you love and give hearts to your favorite songs and playlists and albums, add as many of your favorite artists and play play play and ban artists you don't like and Flow will soon catch your note.  I am very satisfied.  But you have to make friends and devote time to it.

Yes, indeed. Let it learn.

On first day lame, now it is much better than Google’s Feeling lucky which was okay, but always played same favourites over and over and over again. On Deezer I hear new tracks, new favorites, old classics over and over and over again. Today I paid ONE YEAR in advance for this great service.

Pay 10 months and get 12 months is their annual discount. I paid years for Spottily and then GPM receiving no discounts for loyalty. This is my new home for hard dance music since 29.06.20.

They gave me option to keep 2 months I already had trial. They suggested next time I need to cancel with them, go free, and buy annual again with discounted prices unless they give better ways.

I like flow, I like mixes, this service is good bargain at 99,90 a year for this amazing quality.

It works like a charm when something is great.

This is great, worth to pay.

354 replies

PedroBrasa
Rising Star
Rising Star
September 15, 2021

@Gaffer13 above:

 

Any of the options would be nice!

 

More imputs:

 

 

  1. Flow is starting to have more congruence in moods, ambiences, atmospheres, call it what you want. It’s not a matter of genre. Rock music has a lot of slow, lowbeat songs, for instance, and those marry well with slow, lowbeat songs from any genre. But the option to change the “mood” refer to genre choices. I don’t want to focus on a particular genre if I ask to change mood. We should be given option to change mood to “dark”, “urban”, “danceable”, “elegant”, etc. Be creative. How can this be implemented? Give the users the option to tag songs, like Last.fm does.
  2. Although it’s better nowadays, flow is still sometimes very repetitive. I got it, Flow is not the place to go when I want to listen to an entirely new catalogue. But I why does Flow always plays the songs I have listened the most ever or been listening the most lately? I have 1800 favorite songs and a lot of them are gathering dust forgotten amidst series of favorite songs from the same artist or album (more probabilities of playing when shuffling).
  3. Please, stop pushing lame compilation albums like “30 hits of summer 2006” or greatest hits albums. I want to know the artist’s catalog in the context of their albums. I bet that every other of us who (still) use the social network in a comma Last.fm still care for the tags they play and hate to see those greatest hit albums among our scrobbles.


Apart from that, I would like to know what is the effect of skipping a track on Flow. Sometimes it’s not an artist I don’t like, it’s just that I wouldn’t listen to them at that moment.

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"The Kids of Today Should Defend Themselves Against the '70s"
PedroBrasa
Rising Star
Rising Star
September 15, 2021

I found the answer to the question above so I’ll post here.

 


Apart from that, I would like to know what is the effect of skipping a track on Flow. Sometimes it’s not an artist I don’t like, it’s just that I wouldn’t listen to them at that moment.​​

 

“Rudi Community Manager
The Godfather
10 months ago

Hi @hpguru 

Yes, it will be affected because it's constantly learning from you.

But the same learning apply if you don't want that - and you should keep skipping on Flow until it changes from RAP back to what you love, Hard Dance. Flow will then learn that you don't like the genre and will stop pushing it on you 👍🏼”

"The Kids of Today Should Defend Themselves Against the '70s"
PedroBrasa
Rising Star
Rising Star
September 15, 2021
  1. Please, stop pushing lame compilation albums like “30 hits of summer 2006” or greatest hits albums. I want to know the artist’s catalog in the context of their albums. I bet that every other of us who (still) use the social network in a comma Last.fm still care for the tags they play and hate to see those greatest hit albums among our scrobbles.​​

About this, would be great if we could dislike an album on flow or on queue list.

"The Kids of Today Should Defend Themselves Against the '70s"
Ultimate Superstar
September 15, 2021

I found the answer to the question above so I’ll post here.

 


Apart from that, I would like to know what is the effect of skipping a track on Flow. Sometimes it’s not an artist I don’t like, it’s just that I wouldn’t listen to them at that moment.​​

 

“Rudi Community Manager
The Godfather
10 months ago

Hi @hpguru 

Yes, it will be affected because it's constantly learning from you.

But the same learning apply if you don't want that - and you should keep skipping on Flow until it changes from RAP back to what you love, Hard Dance. Flow will then learn that you don't like the genre and will stop pushing it on you 👍🏼”

Yes skipping does. Then it plays favourites hard dance with less of new.

I am not sure if flow works different for different people but for me I want to discover, not hear what I already have at my fingers on lists or liked. For me it plays 90% from my lists or liked.

It is lately extremely hard to discover on Deezer noting as well how poor track mixes are playing charts if there’s not enough listens from users on certain hard dance or underground rap etc.

I know that they are working on flow right now.

I can’t tell how they work on it, but I see that it will not change for me how I want FLOW to work.

Usually community moderators here will tell try clearing cache or skip as fast as possible. I think they might be joking. I know skipping works, but skip as fast as possible. Telling to paying customer skip instantly or delete cache feels more like a joke than valuable respect for me at least in opinion.

Harmonie
Hitmaker
Hitmaker
September 17, 2021

I think it's s***. It plays liked tracks too often, instead of playing new ones that I might like. I thought "FLOW" was about discovering new tracks..

Don't know why many praise such a useless feature.

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Ultimate Superstar
September 21, 2021

I think it's shit. It plays liked tracks too often, instead of playing new ones that I might like. I thought "FLOW" was about discovering new tracks..

Don't know why many praise such a useless feature.

Too often. I can’t discover with it.

I want to hear new music as much as possible. By new I mean new and old unheard music.

FLOW does not provide with that, nor it even helps with that.

The way FLOW is getting improved, it will not fix the way I want FLOW to work.

I think flow is their selling point and it feels hilarious it doesn’t work for discovery. Discovering what you already like is not discovery. It’s more of a local FM radio playing your own hit list daily.

Ultimate Superstar
September 22, 2021

FLOW is getting updated. Now it is safe to say what I knew for month now.

There is a wheel now to let Deezer play music based on emotions like Party, Melancholy etc.

This is not exactly for discovery, but for categorizing music you listen with few recommendations. I’ve seen on forums people asking a tool to let FLOW do 10% only your library and 90% discovery with ability to change exact %. It’s not clear when or if FLOW will come with a wheel on web apps.

Does it work for you people, let’s comment.

It seems for now no real progress at Deezer helping us discover new or old unheard music.

For me like I said before, it does not help with discovery. It’s basically mood flow.

Hitmaker
September 22, 2021

Haven’t tried it yet, but this is certainly very welcome. I rarely want to listen to something completely random from my music library, in random combinations - and yet that’s the result when you listen to different genres. It remains to be seen how well they separate the songs into groups.

Rob Igo
Ultimate Superstar
The OG
September 22, 2021

oh @hpguru bore off.  If you’re now “not bored listening to hard dance music” on Spotify whilst having fun with yourself in one of your many spa’s - then why keep coming on here with negative comments to Deezer?  You were it’s champion for so long but because you abused your position of being Legend you now bad mouth / be negative against Deezer at every opportunity - it’s really hypocritical (and any other forums you go on I’m sure will be weary of trusting you with privilaged information).

 

You know quite well how much Deezer are putting into the progress of their product yet you continue to be negative on a personal level because you lost your Legend status.

 

Just go and enjoy your dance music on Spotify - have fun on their forums because if you’ve nothing nice to say then don’t say anything at all.

 

I'm a "Deezerhead" (fanboy) and just love music! (Please note even though I love all things Deezer I do not work for Deezer and therefore cannot assist with account issues etc.)
Ultimate Superstar
September 22, 2021

Haven’t tried it yet, but this is certainly very welcome. I rarely want to listen to something completely random from my music library, in random combinations - and yet that’s the result when you listen to different genres. It remains to be seen how well they separate the songs into groups.

I recommend to try it out what it plays.

You only need beta app for now.