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deezer hifi and airplay?

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December 7, 2019
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Hello, if I use my iPhone to play music from Deezer app and a hifi subscription, and redirect the music (normally FAC format) via airplay to my audio system (old system, with an airplay receiver), is the sound will be degradated ? Or is it a valid option ?

Is Deezer hifi (launched on my iPhone) is compatible with airplay ?

i really try to find a wireless solution with good quality, and by using my existing audio system…

thank you for your help

Best answer by Rudi

Hey @KP50 @Viewtiful Bob

Our devs came back to us with more info on this:

It is true that HiFi users can stream their songs in FLAC format to an AirPlay speaker without loss of quality. iOS converts the decoded audio data to ALAC, which is the Apple equivalent of FLAC and is a lossless compression format.

About AirPlay 2, it consists mostly of 2 improvements compared to AirPlay:

multiroom audio, which allows playing synchronously the same song on multiple speakers, it is supported by Deezer app
fast streaming, which increases playback control reactivity and reduces the chance to face audio drops, this feature is not currently implemented in Deezer app

AirPlay 2 does not improve audio quality, the original version of AirPlay already offers CD-quality audio (16 bit 44.1/48 kHz).

In sum, you're right and the information previously provided wasn't correct. Once we have more concrete details, I'll be sharing them here in the community :v_tone2:

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RudiAnswer

Ultimate Superstar

Hey @KP50 @Viewtiful Bob

Our devs came back to us with more info on this:

It is true that HiFi users can stream their songs in FLAC format to an AirPlay speaker without loss of quality. iOS converts the decoded audio data to ALAC, which is the Apple equivalent of FLAC and is a lossless compression format.

About AirPlay 2, it consists mostly of 2 improvements compared to AirPlay:

multiroom audio, which allows playing synchronously the same song on multiple speakers, it is supported by Deezer app
fast streaming, which increases playback control reactivity and reduces the chance to face audio drops, this feature is not currently implemented in Deezer app

AirPlay 2 does not improve audio quality, the original version of AirPlay already offers CD-quality audio (16 bit 44.1/48 kHz).

In sum, you're right and the information previously provided wasn't correct. Once we have more concrete details, I'll be sharing them here in the community :v_tone2:

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KP50

Guitar Hero

Thank you for the information about converting HIFI to ALAC using AirPlay.

Rudi

Ultimate Superstar

Thank you for keeping tabs with me on this @KP50 it's great for the community and for our devs to be in tune with everyone as well :vulcan_tone2:

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Viewtiful Bob

Rising Star

Hey @KP50 @Viewtiful Bob

Our devs came back to us with more info on this:

It is true that HiFi users can stream their songs in FLAC format to an AirPlay speaker without loss of quality. iOS converts the decoded audio data to ALAC, which is the Apple equivalent of FLAC and is a lossless compression format.

About AirPlay 2, it consists mostly of 2 improvements compared to AirPlay:

multiroom audio, which allows playing synchronously the same song on multiple speakers, it is supported by Deezer app
fast streaming, which increases playback control reactivity and reduces the chance to face audio drops, this feature is not currently implemented in Deezer app

AirPlay 2 does not improve audio quality, the original version of AirPlay already offers CD-quality audio (16 bit 44.1/48 kHz).

In sum, you're right and the information previously provided wasn't correct. Once we have more concrete details, I'll be sharing them here in the community :v_tone2:

Hi @Rudi

Thats great news, thank you for looking into it & confirming. I’m glad I was right - doesn’t happen often! I’ll take a cut for all the extra subscriptions you’ll get now 😁

Now I’m free of the shackles of the BMW subscription & I know it’ll work on Airplay I will try out Hi-Fi. (presumably Master / 24 bit will automatically downsample to CD quality?)

Then the only thing I need is Hi-Fi and Family in a combined subscription! Or even better, the option for two profiles (like the ‘couple’ plan Spotify offer). Why not make the plans modular like that so you can customise what you do want & what you don’t want? That would be a good unique selling point if I could have Hi-Fi and two profiles (who needs six, exactly?) 😉

Cheers

Rob

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jeremybonan

Hitmaker

Hello everyone,

Great thread. I have been myself advocating for a full AirPlay 2 support within Deezer here

and there https://fr.deezercommunity.com/la-boite-a-idees-36/compatibilite-deezer-avec-airplay-2-27534...

It would be a great feature to improve the Deezer experience with enhanced audio buffering, especially if a Family/Hifi (HiRes?) plan is coming…

Indeed, I think even with the correction of @Rudi , there is still a misunderstanding of what AirPlay 2 is capable. My understanding is that it no longer converts to ALAC but the music stream/file is sent as is to the Speakers. Basically, it now supports a variety of audio formats, various bit depths and various sampling rate (including 48 kHz). See below.

Can’t wait for @dev to implement this!

You can read it all at the 2017 (!!!) WWDC session: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017/509/

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Leyo91

Guitar Hero

Hi there, i’m a new user and I have some questions for my Hi-Fi plan:

AirPlay: can I stream in Hi-Fi quality with my DENON?
CarPlay: I connect the iPhone in the car with USB, the quality are Hi-Fi?
This morning when I play a song after 30 sec. skip the track, whats the problem? (the track is “Forever Young - Alphaville” from his album)

Thanks!

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jeremybonan

Hitmaker

@Rudi Quick follow up.

I’ve read here: https://devialetchat.com/Thread-Apple-Music-Hi-res?pid=102346#pid102346 that there may be limitation in the way AirPlay 2 has to be integrated in speakers, as far as codec and bitrate/samples are concerned and that only aac and ALAC, 16bit and 44,1/48kHz are currently supported without conversion.

I don’t have access to the MFI documentation quoted though. Maybe you do on Deezer side.

Best,

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Anatoliy777

Roadie

Здравствуйте. Проблема с подпиской. Активировал hi fi russia из подписок в настройках айфон 12 мини, но в приложении пишет бесплатная версия подписки и качество звука не изменятся

Rudi

Ultimate Superstar

Hey @jeremybonan thanks for the detail! I've forwarded your comments to the relevant teams here at Deezer - but they're super busy doubling their efforts these months to fix more bugs. We need to hang in here before we know more about AirPlay 2 and how it works with our service.

Hi @Anatoliy777

You need to check this here: