More discoveries in Flow

Let me join the choir: flow is repetitive and keeps offering the same music. I am lazy, so I like to just hit flow and listen to a mix of "my" stuff and new stuff. But if you only use flow it gets into a cycle where it keeps on feeding you the same songs and therefore it thinks you like to listen to those (the play count for each goes up, right?), so it will play them more and more!

The fader idea is great.

Another improvement would be for Flow to tip into every element of "My Music" (artists, albums etc) and not just (or mostly) what I listen to more often.

Come on Deezer, surprise us! 😉

Probably like most of the Deezer users, I predominantly use the Flow to listen to music daily.
However my mood changes on from day to day, and I was thinking that it would be nice to change the parameters that go in the Flow propositions?
Say, for example, I'm in a "discovery mood" and would like to allow the Flow to propose me some stuff that can be quite "far" from the tracks I have liked.
I could also be in a mood where I allow the Flow to choose from songs from the artists I have liked songs but haven't actually liked.
I have also realised that there is a strong temporality in the Flow, i.e. it will play stuff that I liked recently. This is, of course, fine, but sometimes you could also want it to go back later in time. Again I'm assuming this is just a parameter which enters in the algorithm, so it shouldn't be very hard to let the user modify it?

Anyway, I'm assuming there are some basic quantities that can be tweaked in the Flow algorithm? Although I have no clue what it actually is, maybe there could be several default settings?
I have no clue how fine-tuned the Flow algorithm is, but I think that would be quite cool.

I'm pretty new to music streaming, so far I'm mostly using with CarPlay and a little with Sonos. It's a combination of personal listening during my commute and communal listening with kids, grown-up gatherings and road trips.

Hearing some of the benefits of various streaming services, thought I'd share my "persona" for how I'd like to listen to music:

• Flow, for a combination of favourite tracks and similar music for my personal listening. Really needs an exclusion system though, as it's now corrupted with Disney tracks!
• Mixes, for when I want a type of genre for either personal or communal listening (party, car etc). Some new music welcome! With the app and CarPlay it's very difficult to find and make them favourites - essential with the limited functionality in CarPlay.
• Moods, similar to mixes but can be a mix of genres for a given mood.
• Discover, for completely new music based on my preferences.

I've been using deezer for a long time and this is starting to really bug me out.

The FLOW playlist sucks!

Let me elaborate. Maybe its just me, but, I keep getting the same...50ish songs all the time. I get very very few songs from each artist i have Favorited (its mostly 1 or 2 songs for each) even though they have almost their whole discography.
And for most of my Favorited artists I NEVER get a song in the FLOW option.

And whenever I do get a new song mixed in, its from either an artist i don't like, or a whole GENRE i clearly don't like. Specially Latin music (and i'm from S. America)

Deezers algorithm should have learned by now, after disliking hundreds of latin songs, that I do not like that genre.

And also PLEAAAASE make it be more varied and take more varied songs from all your favorite artists instead of always the same God Damned small pool of songs.

Thanks a lot!

I completely agree. Even if I do like a song, I don't always want to listen to the same songs again. But worse when bands that are skipped every time reappear shortly unless I explicitly mark them as not my favourite. It should be easy to improve the model.

On a related note:
https://en.deezercommunity.com/got-an-idea-9/let-the-user-modify-the-parameters-of-the-flow-3383

It happens the same to me, always the same songs. And flow is the only way to show Deezer which songs we like and which not (well, favourite songs also..)

I used to use Rdio, which had a fantastic set of suggestion algos. Deezer Flow seems to replay the same set of songs over and over again, but sometimes suggests "related" music - some of it I like, so on balance, okay, the service somewhat works.

Recently though, it got horribly bad. It rarely plays any favourites, but it plays a lot of random songs, bulk of them from categories I've explicitly excluded.

Whatever change you guys rolled out, please, test more thoroughly before deploying, a bit of dogfooding goes a long way! Would be swell if you could roll it back until sufficient improvements are made.

Maybe try to shuffle your library on the "Your Music" page with the Play button there, then you should at least hear some songs that you haven't heard for a while. Or does it behave the same, i.e. repeat only a small fraction of your library?

Would also be cool to be able to set up in the settings that you can return to the previous song in Flow, because it happens often to me that I skip the song by mistake and then I can't return to the song so easily.