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One Hit Wonder
November 1, 2017
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Gapless playback between tracks

  • November 1, 2017
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There should be no gap between tracks running into each other. This is a basic thing for the listeners experience.

458 replies

Guitar Hero
May 6, 2019
I'm pretty sure, as long deezer using junk codecs like mp3 for streaming, there will never ever be gapless playback do technical limitations of mp3 (frame ending).

The gaps they have now are much longer than a single mp3 frame. An mp3 frame is only 26ms long. There are ways of dealing with that. You could end tracks on the last full frame boundary and start next track in next frame. You'd loose an average of about 1/80th of a second off the end of each track. I'd rather have that than the gaping silences between tracks now. Alternatively, the last frame can be filled with something other than silence -- similar to image smoothing if you will. Yes, you'd be introducing artifacts but I'd rather have 1/100th of a second or so of some clever algorithm's best effort / guess than not. I've seen the quest for perfection cripple developers. "Good" is good enough a lot of the time. Of course, this sort of stuff does take effort, expertise, and time. Then again, it isn't like this problem hasn't already been solved before.
Aside from all that, Deezer has a lot of content in lossless format. They aren't inextricably stuck with mp3.
Rising Star
May 10, 2019
... I'll look into the gapless discussion with our product team and I'll let you know if there are any updates.

@Rudi ,

What's the word?

More importantly, can you explain *why* we don't have Gapless, so at least we can understand what we're waiting for? Is it a music rights licensing issue? Is it a lack of skilled programmers to make this a priority? Is it that executives think not enough people care about Gapless to spend the money on development?

Thanks in advance for any transparency you can bring!

-Alex
Guitar Hero
May 11, 2019
@TheFrahes

You're right, I made a mistake. We do have another topic with Gapless and Crossfading in the same comment. Crossfading is being tested, not gapless. It's not ideal, but it's an available workaround.
I'll look into the gapless discussion with our product team and I'll let you know if there are any updates.

There is no crossfade in the macOS app. So, there isn't even a workaround.
Rudi
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Ultimate Superstar
May 13, 2019
Hi there @dorcus_maximus

If you can't see under settings > Deezer Labs, you can still test it by going Beta 😉
Guitar Hero
May 13, 2019
Hi there @dorcus_maximus

If you can't see under settings > Deezer Labs, you can still test it by going Beta ;)


I guess you missed the bit about macOS? There is no Beta program for the desktop app, at least not at that link.
Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
May 14, 2019
You're right, @dorcus_maximus, you mentioned Mac, not iOS.
Well, back to the drawing board then! 😅 thank you for the feedback. We're having discussions with our product team so that they can give a clear answer on hot topics like this one. So please bear with us a bit longer and we'll be able to give more info.
Roadie
May 16, 2019

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As others have mentioned, there are many albums where tracks are connected without silence. Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon is a great example, and I respectfully request that you to listen to just 5 minutes of this album. You will hear a break in the music twice in 5 minutes, as if someone paused the album momentarily. I think if you hear the problem, you will understand our concern. (This is not exactly an obscure album: it spent 15 YEARS on the Billboard Top-200 album sales list!)

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Thank you,

-Alex


I just found this thread having come here from listening to DSOTM. Gapless should be default, an option possibly, but not available is crazy!
Roadie
May 21, 2019
Just so let you know that I left Deezer for Spotify, two years ago, because of this. That was the sole reason.
Rising Star
May 29, 2019
Just so let you know that I left Deezer for Spotify, two years ago, because of this. That was the sole reason.

I prefer Deezer over Spotify, but I have mostly stuck around because my B&O stereo equipment also prefers Deezer. But this has been ignored long enough that I'm considering selling all my equipment and replacing it with something that allows me to listen to ALL my music. It is simply mind-blowing that this wasn't resolved 5 years ago.
Rising Star
May 29, 2019
You're right, @dorcus_maximus, you mentioned Mac, not iOS.
Well, back to the drawing board then! 😅 thank you for the feedback. We're having discussions with our product team so that they can give a clear answer on hot topics like this one. So please bear with us a bit longer and we'll be able to give more info.


@Rudi When should we expect to hear back from you about what the product team has to say?