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Jaime.Deezer
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Jaime.Deezer
Community Manager
August 1, 2021

Tip: Get the most out of FLOW

  • August 1, 2021
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Tip: Get the most out of FLOW

What is the reason that FLOW once again only offers unsuitable songs? How can you make FLOW better?

 

In the beginning there was… :baby_tone2:

FLOW is basically stupid at first and has to learn your own listening habits. In other words, at the beginning, the suggestions that appeal to the general public and maybe you yourself predominate. So everything is still very general, like on the radio.

Attention: FLOW will only appears if there are at least 15 artists in your own favorites!

 

But I'm not the general public… :couple::two_men_holding_hands::two_women_holding_hands:

That's great, then tell FLOW what you like and -most importantly- what you don't(!) like.

 

So let's let FLOW learn a little… :bulb::bulb::bulb:

Start FLOW and listen to a few suggested tracks.

Decide whether you like a track or not:

Track is not (yet) one of the favorite songs
Track was heartfelt by you and is therefore part of your favorite songs
With this evil face, you tell FLOW that you don't like the track. Use this button!

 

All right, but I don't just want to hear FLOW so that FLOW gets to know me!


Understandable. :selfie_tone2:

FLOW also learns, of course, if songs contained in ‘normal’ playlists receive a Like or a Dislike. In playlists, which in many cases already contain favorite songs, you can very easily and quickly like a whole batch:

 

Individual songs can also be easily disliked, e.g. in the current song :Notes: - click on the three dots:

And then on:

 

Can I also like/dislike more globally?

Yes and no. So not everything. :nerd:

Globally, artists and albums can get a Like/Dislike.

Genre cannot be controlled globally.

:information_source: Tip: Take a list of the genre that you don't like at all, e.g. Christmas. :santa_tone1: Then dislike all the tracks one by one. FLOW already knows that Christmas is not yours, you Grinch. :wink:

 

I have a few tracks in the favorite songs playlist, but FLOW still suggests a lot of unsuitable tracks.

FLOW has to constantly learn in order to become more precise and also better. There is currently a limit of 10,000 tracks for favorite songs.

:information_source: There is a display limit of 2,000 tracks for the excluded songs. Further tracks are not displayed, but still affect the FLOW. Especially the dislikes should be distributed wherever possible. Simply clicking on is not really enough. Only when FLOW knows what you don't like can really good stuff be offered in return.

 

Where can I see how many and which songs I already have on the dislike list?

Unfortunately, this is not visible in the smartphone apps.

But with the desktop and web version this is very easy: Click on your own profile name in the upper right corner and click on ‘Manage excluded tracks’.

Alternatively via these links:

Excluded tracks: https://www.deezer.com/exclusions/tracks

Excluded artists: https://www.deezer.com/exclusions/artists

 

My mood has changed...

That's not possible… Joking aside. :joy:

No problem at all! :thumbsup:

Heart :heart: simply previously excluded tracks or grab tracks from the list ‘Favorite songs’ list into the ‘Excluded tracks’ list.

FLOW then adapts very quickly. :white_check_mark:

 

It feels like FLOW only plays my favorites and nothing new...

Yes, FLOW sometimes has a bad day and makes it very easy for itself. :scream:

In most cases, however, the ratio should be: One or two new tracks on a favorite.

→ These are empirical values of the thread author. :relaxed:

 

Want to know more about FLOW? Read about its evolution here 👇

 

 

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    Mr. Jahrami
    Hitmaker
    Mr. Jahrami
    Hitmaker
    January 4, 2022

    Why would you need offline lyrics? You can google any lyrics if needed. 

    Gimme that beat
    Placido09
    Hitmaker
    Placido09
    Hitmaker
    January 4, 2022

    The only reason I don't like and listen to Flow is because Flow only plays what I've listened to in the last 14 days. I have in favorites over 1600 tracks but Flow takes this completely out of consideration and only plays the style I've been listening to lately. And that includes the styles in the circle, which I think are similar, which are totally pointlessly chosen.

    Crazy about music
      Anonymous
      March 15, 2022

      I've tried to do almost everything possible, but Flow, Monday Discoveries en Sunday Chill aren't playlists that I would listen to. 

       

      Flow plays my favorites again and again, sometimes a "new" song.

      And the moods are terrible. The moods offer songs that I would never listen to. 

       

      Sunday Chill plays is a mix of songs that I would like and songs that I would never listen to.

       

      Same goes for the Monday Discoveries. Of all the songs, I would never listen to them. And I mean never. 

       

      I've got 145 favorite songs, 102 favorite artists and 133 albums.

       

      What am I doing wrong?

       

      The 100% and the Daily are perfect. Nothing wrong with those playlists. 

      Zayn-T
      Rockstar
      Zayn-T
      Rockstar
      March 29, 2022

      I’m finding a big improvement in Flow the last week or so. Previously, there wasn’t much of a distinction between the different moods, but now ‘Chill’ really is chill and it’s been perfect this morning. I’m seeing similar improvements in other moods as well. I hope it continues… 🤞 Are others finding it better too?

      He/him. EDM, Dance, Hardstyle, techno & trance fan using iPhone 14pm, Mac M2 & Apple TV .
      Anonymous
      April 20, 2022

      Now one month later The Chill Playlist and The Monday Discoveries are still very off. 

      I listen to metal and hard rock (Nightwish for example} and what do I get? Bonny Raith, Dire Straits and Aretha Franklin.

      I still don't get it. 

      Anonymous
      June 19, 2022

      After a while of not using it, I'm using my Flow (Standard/Classic) more heavily again.

      Here I noticed the following:
      My flow on the computer (web version) is completely different than my flow on the iPhone.

      On the computer I mainly listen to Electro, Techno and Goa stuff → that's exactly what the web flow gives me.

      In the car, I mostly listen to Chill and House with my iPhone... → iOS-Flow mainly serves me Chill and House music.

       

      Thesis/Question:

      Could it be that Flow is also based on the music heard on the respective devices?

      Maybe someone can confirm or refute that.

      If that can really be confirmed, that would be absolutely COOL.

       

      And something else I noticed:

      Songcatcher seems to feed the flow directly. Because: Although I only briefly played the songs found via Songcatcher and put them in a playlist for later, other songs by the artist are served to me shortly afterwards. I also find it very charming.

        Roadie
        mcbrt.42
        Roadie
        January 1, 2023

        I don't want flow! How can I get rid of flow?

        Anonymous
        January 1, 2023

        @mcbrt.42 

        You could just ignore flow.

          Spookhouse
          Hitmaker
          Spookhouse
          Hitmaker
          January 31, 2023

          @dee_dirk 

          Hey I was thinking. Maybe just have a way to tell flow that the song was a good recommendation, but not necessarily add it to my my favorites. My flow is getting better but I dont want to use up all my favorite songs space. Maybe a “good recommendation” option to add.Just an idea

          I know always that I am an outsider; a stranger in this century and among those who are still men.
          Anonymous
          January 31, 2023

          @Spookhouse 

          The idea is good. The same would also be considered or useful for songs that are not suitable at the moment. Maybe you like the music, but it just doesn't fit the mood. A dislike would then be too hard.

          I'm thinking about whether and how I can visualize it. As you know, pictures say more than 1000 words and the Flow team then knows immediately what is meant/desired.

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