Repetitive "Shuffle my music" // keeps playing the same songs

Hi @Patryk Pozniak so sorry you are not happy with this. Our developers are working on this part at the moment, but we do not know when the changes will be live, but hopefully soon and we can win you back 😉

Hi everyone, just checked with the devs and here's an update about this issue. At the moment "shuffle my music" is a simplifies version of the feature and it's normal that it mostly plays your popular albums and favourites. But our team is already working on a better solution for this, so that you'll see a bigger variety of tracks in the future 🙂

@reneemoodie What do you mean by 9 songs? Are there only 9 songs in the queue when you use the feature or are there 9 tracks that are always in the queue?

Please see here how to improve your flow:

https://en.deezercommunity.com/what-are-you-listening-to-17/tip-how-to-improve-your-flow-1321

Maybe Deezer should consider giving the listener some options for Flow rather than making the decisions of what I want to listen to for me.
The fact that Flow creates the queue for you is the key feature of Flow 😉
But I get your wish for a more individual Flow, which is why we introduced the Flow cards/tabs recently. This way you can choose between different Flows based on different artists :)
If you prefer to know what is going to be played, I recommend choosing one of the many playlists you can find on Deezer (browse by genre or check out playlists on artist pages).

I also find that if I play a mix from an artist page that this is also very repetitive in terms of its content. The songs are just the same 'hits' that I've heard over and over again. If I listen to a mix of a given artist I want to hear songs related to his artist that I might not have heard before. I don't want to hear the hits from similar artists that I no doubt already know. Deezer and similar services are a great opportunity for people to widen their musical knowledge but not if all they hear are the hits.

An artist mix will always play a mix of music, both from the artist and music from similar artists. That's very well intended :)
If you want to listen to tracks from 1 artist only, just listen to their "top tracks" (if you don't like the songs in order by popularity, just shuffle it ;)).

I have 190 artists as favourites, how many tracks have these 190 artists recorded between them? I don't know but I bet there's enough tracks between them for many days of uninterrupted music without any repeats. That's what flow should be.....

This is the issue this thread is about - as you can see in the comments above, we're looking into this right now. Keep updated on the issue here 🙂

Maybe Deezer should consider giving the listener some options for Flow rather than making the decisions of what I want to listen to for me.The fact that Flow creates the queue for you is the key feature of Flow 😉

But I get your wish for a more individual Flow, which is why we introduced the Flow cards/tabs recently. This way you can choose between different Flows based on different artists :)
If you prefer to know what is going to be played, I recommend choosing one of the many playlists you can find on Deezer (browse by genre or check out playlists on artist pages).

Hi Shannon, I think you may have misunderstood what I was getting at about giving the listener options. For example for me I would like to hear album tracks that where never released as singles, for someone else they may not care about album tracks and only want to hear the singles or hits from their favourite artists. At the moment it seems to be that flow is very much 'hits' based. I would like to be able to say to flow play me more album tracks as well as the hits and tracks from similar artists.

Its not that I want to know what will be played, I understand that I can simply play an album or playlist if I want. I would just prefer flow to be a bit more diverse in its choices and pick from any of the tracks from artists/albums that I have as favourites. I would also prefer the tracks from other artists to be a bit more diverse as well but getting the favourited artists bit right first would be a good start.

I look forward to seeing or hearing how you get on with your changes.

By the way, its good that users can actually get responses and conversation from Deezer in the forums. There are too many support forums where users just get ignored. At least Deezer seem to be listening...

Hi there, I totally agree with you. It would be amazing if you could control Flow much more than you can now and I'm sure Shannon also agrees 🙂 What she was trying, was to give you a workaround for now to improve Flow for you. But we always pass feedback like yours on to our team. We just can't promise anything right now.

But we'll definitely keep you posted about any news and updates 🙂

@289_29689 I moved your post to this topic, as it was already discussed here 🙂 We're working on a better algorithm.

Shuffle My Music and the playlist is always the same 15 songs. phone, browser or desktop app, no difference. With phone I can skip those 15 songs and then a new playlist appears, not the most convenient way of doing things and only works with phone...

It seems that this problem with shuffle my music has been an issue for a while now, are you actually doing something to fix this?

Hi there, sorry about that. But it's not a bug. It's just that this is a simplified version of the feature with a basic algorithm, which is why you experience this. We are working on a better algorithm for the future, but I don't have an ETA yet. But we will need to wait for the new version of the feature to be released.

When I press the shuffle button, while using the app with my mobile or computer, it plays the SAME songs again. Really annoying, especially when paying for a premium account.

Hello,

I am experiencing the same issue and it's even worse when I use the "Discover" flow playlist. I listened to this yesterday evening and the day before and the playlist consisted of the SAME songs in the exact same order. I skipped maybe 15-20 songs and they were all repeats from the day before, in the same order (seemingly, I did not do 100% thorough check).

Maybe I don't understand what "Discover" is supposed to be, but I was under the impression that it suggested unheard tracks based on what you listen to, starting from a seed of artists. At a minimum, if it plays the same songs, it should at least shuffle them.

Suggestion: It would be awesome if a user could pick 4-5 albums or artists and hit a button to create a "Discover" flow playlist for them to listen to based on the artists selected. Even better would be giving users the ability to define how much "variance" or how "risky" the algorithm is in determining what to play.

I'm listening to music non-stop at work and the playlists are getting pretty stale.

Other features that would help in alleviating these issues:

• the ability to "Time-out" a song so that it won't play for a week (or some user definable period)
• skipping a song should stop it from playing again in the same playlist
• "play a different mood" button which would redirects the flow to a different style
• skipping a song should slowly reduce the likelihood of that song being played in a future playlist

I made the mistake placing ONE Coldplay song in my favorites and now flow thinks I am a HUUUUGE Coldplay fan. Despite skipping these songs every time, it still plays them. Not sure how to fix this.

Regarding the "skipping" feedback: Are you talking about Flow or playlists?

Flow, I think.


Thanks for the reply, I didn't know that discover and flow tabs were static playlists. I find it weird that it starts over instead of continuing where you left off though.

In other news, I just listened to Flow and within 15 songs, the song "That's my N****" played three times and the song "Heart of the moment" also played three times. That's just too much repetition. It's like the algorithm is stuck in a rut.

Hey, I'd like fresh music please! 😉

Hi @Valou82 , I believe you need to do a bit of work with your Flow 🙂 Please see how to improve your Flow here. ;)
Thanks for the reply, Rafael. :)

Is this what you are referring to?
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Improving your Flow

If you’ve only just started with Deezer, Flow only knows what you picked when you signed up. So it might not get it right all the time.
The basic way to improve your Flow, is by adding more content to your favorites ❤️ Whether it’s an album, an artist, a track; Flow absorbs it all.

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I do have over 200 tracks in my favorites and 40 or so artists, in theory, flow should have plenty of things to chose from without picking the same songs 6 times over 15 songs.

Lots of people the same issue, and lots of commitments to go away and look at the problem. No solutions. I just wonder if there is a more simple explanation. Deezer probably pay varying royalty rates to different artists, so what you get in your shuffle is what maximises the bottom line. Just a thought....