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January 16, 2019

[FEEDBACK] What do you think of "Flow"?

  • January 16, 2019
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Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!
Pinned Reply By hpguru

I was also at first disappointed with the recommendations, but you need to learn Flow.  Play play play, everything you love and give hearts to your favorite songs and playlists and albums, add as many of your favorite artists and play play play and ban artists you don't like and Flow will soon catch your note.  I am very satisfied.  But you have to make friends and devote time to it.

Yes, indeed. Let it learn.

On first day lame, now it is much better than Google’s Feeling lucky which was okay, but always played same favourites over and over and over again. On Deezer I hear new tracks, new favorites, old classics over and over and over again. Today I paid ONE YEAR in advance for this great service.

Pay 10 months and get 12 months is their annual discount. I paid years for Spottily and then GPM receiving no discounts for loyalty. This is my new home for hard dance music since 29.06.20.

They gave me option to keep 2 months I already had trial. They suggested next time I need to cancel with them, go free, and buy annual again with discounted prices unless they give better ways.

I like flow, I like mixes, this service is good bargain at 99,90 a year for this amazing quality.

It works like a charm when something is great.

This is great, worth to pay.

354 replies

Rising Star
January 18, 2019
Mostly positive!
I love the daily and weekly playlists. I think they're the best recommendations I have tried so far (Google Music, Spotify, Tidal).
I wish the general 'Flow' didn't feature as much music that seems to be just popular and instead more of my personal tastes.
One Hit Wonder
January 19, 2019
As many stated here already it's mainly the really limited track selection of the algorithm that makes Flow seem so bad.
I maint hear songs there that I already have liked or are so popular that everybody knows them.

What would be an great addition is a bunch of rather unknown artists who could truly suprise the listener for ones. You could do so over the related artists and maybe choose some from the same genre but below 100 followers.

Greatings

Tom
Roadie
January 19, 2019
flow is working quite bad last time, it's suggesting tracks that I was dislike many time, it's suggesting jazz, pop music but I had never like them! I'd like to be able to choose country and genres
Guitar Hero
January 21, 2019
Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!

Its amazing for discovering more and more music. But I do have a suggestion

Location
And Yes I mean location. I live in Asia for example and I don't want all my songs in "Road Trip" songs to be about some cowboy in west america. If you know what mean.

So depending upon the location where someone lives

  1. Put in a domestic song after every 5th or 6th song, as a surprise
  2. Make a department focusing on music preferences in different parts of the world and target the audience with that approach
  3. People like surprises so bring in their favorite tracks when they least expect them
Well you'r the pros. So thats it
Thanks for making something so amazing and keeping it cheap!!!!
S t e r e o
Rising Star
Rising Star
January 21, 2019
I am relatively new to Deezer, having come from Apple Music.
the flow idea is great, but it would be nice if as a user I could have several custom flows, like I used to have custom stations in Apple Music

I have a very wide taste range and would like a flow for EDM, a flow for rock, a flow for reggae and a flow for lounge for example... each independently influenced by my tastes in those genres and my choices in those flows.

Having just one flow that's trying to combine led zep, deadmau5 & bob marley into one mix does not end well.
Roadie
January 21, 2019
I've been using FLOW for about a year.
I have about 350 songs and dozens of albums and artists in my favorites.
The biggest problem is FLOW keeps playing the same few dozens songs. It should play at least the number of songs in my favorites plus some new songs.
A second issue is the proportion of new songs to already liked songs FLOW plays. I realize this is a matter of personal preference, so the best solution is to make it a selectable variable ("% new songs" - 0-100).
S t e r e o
Rising Star
Rising Star
January 21, 2019
I am relatively new to Deezer, having come from Apple Music.
the flow idea is great, but it would be nice if as a user I could have several custom flows, like I used to have custom stations in Apple Music

I have a very wide taste range and would like a flow for EDM, a flow for rock, a flow for reggae and a flow for lounge for example... each independently influenced by my tastes in those genres and my choices in those flows.

Having just one flow that's trying to combine led zep, deadmau5 & bob marley into one mix does not end well.


Further to this, the ability to "seed" a custom flow with a particular song, artist, genre, playlist... and then have it evolve from there (pandora style) would be amazing
bluezzbastardzz
Superuser
Superuser
January 21, 2019
@S t e r e o : You should have more than one Flow station on your home page, maybe they are missing yet, because you are a new user. Normally you will have the original Flow, three "Inspired by..." stations which sort of aim at genres and a Discover playlist which is updated weekly with new and old releases you may not know, but like.

Concerning Similar Tracks Radio stations, it seems that they already exist in the Android beta version, as one Reddit user reported recently.
ZZee ya, Hans-Jürgen (Bluezz Bastardzz and Indigo Rocks, live album on Deezer, last.fm/user/hjbardenhagen)
Roadie
January 21, 2019
Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!


Thank you for asking for feedback on Flow. I find that the biggest problem with Flow is it seems to factor too much collective data regarding genres and what other people are listening to. The result seems to be a tendency for popular music that my ears are tired of hearing and nothing from the lesser known scenes that are related to the artists I actually listen to.

Suppose there is an artist A0 and A1, A2 and A3 are the artists related to A0. Also suppose that there are other artists B0, C0... Z0. Suppose that these are the artists I have been listening to, I would like to hear music from the intersection of the artists belonging to A, B, C ... Z sets. With the greatest priority given to music that has not been played before and that is not on the charts as I would have already heard it before from other sources. Factors such as listening frequency and how recent the listens would be need to be included as well. I would like the ability to ignore my location or any other general detail. The more I listen to this other music outside of Flow the more the sets are expanded to include the related artists of those related artists. Thus my music appreciation and taste grows. The selections by Flow could begin from what other users listen to most on your platform (not the charts) and specialising to more personalised selections as it learns more of my listening history. The favouriting business is too much effort. I am not going to favourite every release I enjoyed. Most of the time, I would have enjoyed it too much to think about favouriting.

Another issue is the way Flow is marketed. It seems Flow, based on the way it functions, was *designed* as a shuffle feature for mostly a blend of favourites and popular releases in the genres I have been listening to in a manner it all *flows* in a nice way. However, it is advertised as a music discovery feature. What is being advertised creates an expectation of what you find in the domain of music discovery. There is a place for the way Flow works but if I'm being advertised the wrong product, I'm going to be a frustrated user. So a clarification or correction in advertising on the intended use of Flow would be welcome!

Other general issues include being able to ban an act from ever being included in Flow, not just the track. I use the word 'ban' because 'disliking' is not enough.
Guitar Hero
January 21, 2019
For the most part, i love Deezer. Sound quality is excellent and vibrant wherever I listen. I like Flow. I want to love it, but i feel like it could do a better job. For instance, it will start to mix genres too much. If i'm listening to a flow based on Mumford and Sons, Vance Joy, I probably don't want to hear Carlie Rae Jepsen. Also, it constantly tries to suggest french and spanish songs in my flow. It would be great if there was a way to block this completely, only because I don't understand either language well enough to enjoy the music. I want to understand what i'm listening to, which is why I don't listen to instrumentals. Lastly, I will mark "do not play" on a song and then it will pop up again in my recommendations and it clearly shows a blue "do not play" icon which means i have clicked it, but it's still playing it.

I'm contemplating switching to Spotify because they just get it more accurate - granted they have a lot of years and the database of users to pull from, but there's got to be a way to improve the accuracy of your algorithms.

Thanks.