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January 16, 2019

[FEEDBACK] What do you think of "Flow"?

  • January 16, 2019
  • 354 replies
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Hi all,

We wish to collect some of your feedback on Flow, that's why we are opening a new dedicated thread for you to share your feelings on this feature.

Do you like it? Why? What do you think we are missing?

Please be as detailed as you can in your comments, cheers!
Pinned Reply By hpguru

I was also at first disappointed with the recommendations, but you need to learn Flow.  Play play play, everything you love and give hearts to your favorite songs and playlists and albums, add as many of your favorite artists and play play play and ban artists you don't like and Flow will soon catch your note.  I am very satisfied.  But you have to make friends and devote time to it.

Yes, indeed. Let it learn.

On first day lame, now it is much better than Google’s Feeling lucky which was okay, but always played same favourites over and over and over again. On Deezer I hear new tracks, new favorites, old classics over and over and over again. Today I paid ONE YEAR in advance for this great service.

Pay 10 months and get 12 months is their annual discount. I paid years for Spottily and then GPM receiving no discounts for loyalty. This is my new home for hard dance music since 29.06.20.

They gave me option to keep 2 months I already had trial. They suggested next time I need to cancel with them, go free, and buy annual again with discounted prices unless they give better ways.

I like flow, I like mixes, this service is good bargain at 99,90 a year for this amazing quality.

It works like a charm when something is great.

This is great, worth to pay.

354 replies

Rockstar
July 17, 2020

Hello @woodroll, so far it’s a 50/50 basis (half favourites, half discoveries). I’d suggest you have a look at those tips if you never had before: 

 

https://www.deezer.com/en/profile/3421485864
Maximizer
Rising Star
Rising Star
September 8, 2020

What problems does Flow have?
1. Track-based Flow is not working correctly
For example, I choose a track in genre house, but already on track 4 Deezer can offer me a ballad or jazz, I think a genre-based Flow should keep the axis of the main genre and only slightly deviate from the given reference. It can be done, by creating blocks and matching styles that sound close to each other

For example Ibiza House is:
- Groove house
- Funky house
- Jackin House
- Tech House
- Tribal House
These genres usually sound close, and if user choose Tech House, Deezer offer genres near whith him

2. Flow constantly changes mood
Pop -> House -> Techno -> Drum & Bass
Now Flow, look like a circus performance, when each track is a new genre, different energy, different sound, maybe this kind of Flow sounds exciting, I agree, but there are situations when we need a smoother Flow
My suggestion: In the current Flow, you can add a function:
"Follow this mood", if I liked an Indie track, then if I click to "Follow this mood", all next 100 tracks will be Indie or close subgenres

3. Also be done so that users can make their own flows.
Imagine a user can create
Pop Flow
Tech House Flow
Trance Progressive Flow
Trance Flow

I also think that Flow should work with subgenres.

For example, we have Trance Flow, and this is such a Flow where the listener will listen to all subgenres
Trance Progressive
Trance Uplifting
Vocal trance
Tech trance
Schranz

But the user can create more accurate Flow, for example:
I only want Flow
- Deep house
- Future house
and nothing else, for it we need deep inegration to subgenres and connections between them

 

  1. I also do not like that Flow plays tracks from my library, if I want to listen my library, I have a separate favorites playlist for this, so I would remove this feature or make it possible to disable this behavior

 

  1. I also think that your genre and subgenre maps are not very well configured, I think they require more detailed tuning, if you want I can help you with this, it is noticeable how Flow offers tracks does not understand how to keep the sound. He often confuses House Progressive with Trance Progressive, and so on, or after the sound of Ibiza house, he may suggest Disco House, which is not at all true.

 

Think of Flow as a DJ playing a mix, a DJ would not play tracks that don't fit together in sound, energy, or genre compatibility.

 

Best,

Pavel

Ultimate Superstar
September 8, 2020

You nailed it big time!!!

In the middle of my hard dance session on FLOW it can go from dancecore to soft dance and from soft dance to industrial rough hardcore and from that it can go to raw hardstyle. I mean all music is decent, but it plays with no thinking. It’s like not related, not flawless. I wish they make it more professional flow, like it could play at least in themes, and change from that to genres.

5 tracks in this genre, 10 tracks in that, and 6 tracks in another based on taste.

Flow should be with options prefer this genre, exclude that. Instant skipping should make it less available on Flow. More options to make flow yours, not theirs. Much appreciated.

Some tracks I skip on FLOW in seconds and Deezer still plays them.

Ban option I do not use, because it may suggest still this track as different version etc.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
September 10, 2020

Hi there Pavel @Maximizer 

Thanks a lot for the feedback, as @hpguru said, very accurate. We're always working on improving Flow so these comments will be very welcome. In the meantime, for you and for @hpguru please try selecting the little angry face and changing the genre for Flow - I'd appreciate your feedback on this as well :v_tone2:

Maximizer
Rising Star
Rising Star
September 10, 2020

Hi there Pavel @Maximizer 

Thanks a lot for the feedback, as @hpguru said, very accurate. We're always working on improving Flow so these comments will be very welcome. In the meantime, for you and for @hpguru please try selecting the little angry face and changing the genre for Flow - I'd appreciate your feedback on this as well :v_tone2:

I do not quite understand the meaning of why I need to change the mood on my own, if the flow is now working in a mode when each new track has different moods, it would be more logical to make the function “hold the mood” or to make the current flow smoother, then the function to change mood would be more logical 🙌

Guitar Hero
September 11, 2020

Sometimes I listen to Flow and get in an awkward situation when your favorite  song plays… but it doesn’t have that red heart.

So I tap the heart and now I have two similar songs in my favorites - One from a clean version of an album and the other one is from an explicit one. So I think it would be cool if Deezer could track if I already liked a certain song and do not recommend me the same song from a different album. 
Similar situation. I liked some disco song (let’s say Donna Summer’s song). But then Flow gives me the same song but from “best of 70s” compilation. Don’t like that.

Rudi
Ultimate Superstar
Ultimate Superstar
September 12, 2020

Thanks a lot for the recommendations there @Potato19, they make sense and I agree it would be cool :thumbsup_tone2:

You also have a very good point there @Maximizer, I'll be forwarding both your comments to our Flow teams here at Deezer - their work never ends :v_tone2:

Noam Asulin
Superuser
Bezi since 2017
September 15, 2020

Thanks Martin for suggestion. You mean "Shuffle My Music"? I cannot find "Mix my music" button anywhere.

 

Yes this is the one 

(He/Him) .Please be aware I'm not Deezer employee. I'm a proud Musicholic !
Noam Asulin
Superuser
Bezi since 2017
September 15, 2020

4 years into Deezer nd after a year with the improved FLOW I’m in love with that feature . For me it is super good . I do get some weird stuff once in a while but nothing I should be bothered about . 

(He/Him) .Please be aware I'm not Deezer employee. I'm a proud Musicholic !
Ultimate Superstar
September 15, 2020

4 years into Deezer nd after a year with the improved FLOW I’m in love with that feature . For me it is super good . I do get some weird stuff once in a while but nothing I should be bothered about . 

This FLOW is MUCH better than Google Music feeling lucky option.

It is professionally made feature. Plays almost 99% to my taste and suggestions to my taste.

I was forced to move on, since Google Music is closing in next weeks, but I did change. First FLOW never impressed me too much, but in days it improved as I listened more.

Like I said one feature I used a lot, was Feeling lucky.

Now when Deezer played songs, FLOW is even better than that.