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One Hit Wonder
June 6, 2018

Flow repeats tracks

  • June 6, 2018
  • 101 replies
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Is it normal to have several tracks repeated way too frequently when you are in the Flow feature?

101 replies

Rising Star
December 28, 2019

@Rudi Not available in the Bose soundtouch where I play 90% of my music


I have the Bose SoundTouch app and it’s a piece of junk. It displays only 25 albums per artist, you can’t sort artists, you can’t move forward or backward in a track, etc, etc. Absolute rubbish. Bose lets itself down mightily with its software; the hardware sounds great but I think they’ll die if they don’t get their apps sorted out and soon.

Rising Star
December 28, 2019

It means that with 0 favourite tracks, Flow is unable to find music for you based on what you like, because it doesn't know what you like ;)
Please add some artists, albums, playlists and songs to your favourites so Flow can generate satisfying playlists for you 🙂


Surely if I have an artist/album is my catalog Flow can just work from that. I wouldn’t have the artist/album if I didn’t like them. Having to “favourite” them as well is a bit ridiculous.

Guitar Hero
April 26, 2020

Re Flow: I have read tips and tricks . And found nothing new. I have added 100s of tracks to Favs - so many that I discovered the limit is 1000!

yet Flow very rarely samples these tracks. The usual pattern is:

  1. Plays 3 or 4 tracks over and over and over and ruins them for me
  2. 80% is discovery 
  3. rarely if ever does it sample from my fav.
  4. lets say I have Cake or Howard Jones as Favs. I have red hearted both the artist and lots of tracks by those artists. Flow continues to choose the same one or two tracks by those artists. Thereby ruining those songs for me
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Ultimate Superstar
April 27, 2020

Hi @jugehu thank you for explaining a bit further. So basically FLOW plays artists you like but repeats the same tracks over and over again. I forwarded this as feedback to our Flow algorithm team and hope they can change this for you :wink:

If you prefer less discovery, you could simply click on Shuffle my Music to play your entire music library. If you prefer more discovery, try Discovery https://www.deezer.com/en/smarttracklist/discovery 

and New releases https://www.deezer.com/en/channels/new 

Rising Star
April 27, 2020

If you prefer less discovery, you could simply click on Shuffle my Music to play your entire music library.

 

Not true, Shuffle is very restricted/narrow in the tracks it plays as well.

Deezer, why is this so hard?? Randomize, checking for repeated tracks BY NAME (so you don’t get three tracks repeated from the album, Best of … and live, for example). Done. I have no idea how you’ve gone about it but it sure doesn’t work very well.

Guitar Hero
April 27, 2020

There is a flow algorithm TEAM??

what the hell have they been doing? As Steve C says - how hard can it be?

Rockstar
April 28, 2020

Hello @Steve C and @jugehu, thank you for your feedback, we’ll make sure to let them know your thoughts on the shuffle mode, it’s true it needs improvements.

Have a nice day

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Rising Star
April 28, 2020

In my opinion, a good Shuffle should work like this:

  1. Randomly select tracks from my ENTIRE LIBRARY, BUT
  2. Do not repeat tracks by the same artist BY NAME for at least a day, preferably longer*, AND
  3. Possibly do not play tracks shorter than 15s as these are likely not “real” tracks, eg preludes to tracks.

Yes, you could add fancy options such as play only popular tracks, or only from tagged artists or albums.

* Not just the album/track number as this can mean you get, say, Bohemian Rhapsody from a multitude of different releases: original album, live albums, best ofs, etc, etc. I realize that this requires you to potentially track more data but you can do this smartly by tagging tracks with the same name by the same artist with the an ID.

Rockstar
April 29, 2020

Hello @Steve C, that would be indeed pretty clever to do so. However like you said, option 2 is a bit complicated as we work using track, album and artist IDs and not the names, so we would have to set up a whole tag system which we would need to fill for the millions of tracks available on the Deezer catalogue :sweat_smile: 3. is a very good idea as well, totally agree on that one.

Cheers!

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Rising Star
April 29, 2020

… we would have to set up a whole tag system ...

Not really; you could simply use a hash of the artist + album + track name. It wouldn’t need to be exact so you could simply save a sub-string of hash. 16 characters should give you plenty of immunity from repeats.