Confused about my flow maybe buggy?

That’s really frustrating! Deezer’s Flow should reflect your top genres, but it seems stuck on trance/techno. YouTube Music definitely does a better job with dynamic recommendations. Have you tried resetting your listening history or adjusting genre preferences? If that doesn’t help, reaching out to Deezer support might be the next step. Quality music recommendations are key, and if Flow isn't delivering, it’s hard to stick with it.

My music flow doesn't personalize, regardless of my mood or listening habits. It recommends pop and techno despite playing 99% rock and metal songs. I've noticed that if I skip songs, there's no reaction from the flow - it just continues playing without any change.

I've also found that even if I press the 'change my mood' button, the flow often doesn't adjust. Instead, it might recommend a song that it thinks fits the original genre or style, rather than actually changing to something more fitting for my current mood.

This is particularly frustrating when using YouTube Music. A single skip is enough to change the playlist instantly, but Deezer's flow seems primitive in comparison. I've tried listening to a large number of songs from artists I like (over 350) and still, the flow doesn't recognize my taste. In fact, even with over 1400 favorite songs and 70 added artists, it consistently mispredicts my preferences.

I've also tried manually training the flow by only listening to manually picked songs for a week. But when I came back to it, the flow still recommended pop and techno trance, techno, instead other genres that I like.

It's frustrating and feels like the flow is bugged or only updated once a month. Which would be ridiculous, given how much data they have about my listening habits.

For YouTube Music, when I first started using it, I found that their 'Supermix' feature was surprisingly effective at adapting to my listening habits. Initially, all I had to do was select a few favorite artists and songs, and the “Supermix”(youbtes “flow” ) would quickly adjust based on my skips, likes, dislikes, and downvotes.

Within 1-2 hours of use, the Supermix had learned my preferences and started making recommendations that were remarkably accurate. By the end of day two or three, it had become almost intuitive, rarely trying to introduce me to new music or bands that I might not enjoy.

What's even more impressive is that this happened without requiring any manual curation or fine-tuning. The Supermix just seemed to 'get it' through sheer volume and data-driven analysis.

and thats basicly just a side feature for YTM i hoped deezer would atleast be on par.

Hi ​@Evonos, thank you for sharing your detailed feedback.

I’m sorry to hear that your Flow experience hasn’t been as personalized as it should be.

It’s clear that, despite your efforts to train the algorithm, the recommendations aren’t aligning with your preferences.

Flow is designed to adapt based on your listening habits, including skips, favourites, and the artists you follow. From what you’ve described, it seems like there may be an issue preventing your listening data from syncing correctly.

I’ll make sure your concerns are passed along to the relevant team for further investigation.

Hello ​@Evonos I got a reply from the recommendation team.

According to them, we are running since Monday an AB Test where some users, you included, where Flow is more focus on collected content and less in recent stream.

Please give us feedback on how Flow is performing now.

Hi  ​@AndrewRobert thanks for your post. Did you experience any changes in the behaviour of the Flow since Monday?

Please share your feedback.

In fact, yes! I was already wondering why it suddenly sounds (Song choice )  so much better.

With the “more favourites” setting, it's nearly perfect. I would argue that it's extremely close to, or on the same level as, YouTube's Supermix. It plays approximately 1-4 favourite tracks followed by a new song (or multiple as in non favourited ones ) . After an hour of flow play, it starts to mix in fewer favourites, but these new songs also fit my taste very well—an excellent change, indeed.

I haven't tested the “I want to discover more” setting recently. Maybe I’ll try it soon and report back.

Very good changes !

So i tested Flow “I want to discover more” this mode sadly is still Terrible doesnt react at all , doesnt learn its 100% trance / techno.

Atleast “i want more favourites” mode works now great.

Okay , iam still in my 2nd month Trial and i think i might cancel again , deezer just doesnt click to me , it takes way too long to adjust , it feels often like flow just sees 1 Genre and shoots itself into that 1 single Genre it just doesnt feel as great or fluid like YTM.

hey ​@Evonos what are you using at YTM that you are comparing to deezer’s Flow?

edit: I see you’re mostly using your Supermix.

I have both services and would just like to add a little food for thought.

For me, Flow is more fluid (sorry couldn't help myself). I can start it in the morning and it will run all day. My Supermix is a playlist. I can see the entire playlist up front, there’s no mystery, and at some point it ends and I have to restart it. Flow is a surprise box that just keeps going.

For me, and I've been using both services for years, Flow is better with integrating discovery tracks, and I get fewer repeats. Anytime I use my Supermix, I can be assured that within the first few songs, I will get one of my Supermix songs. And that goes whether I'm using the standard Supermix, the chill Supermix, or whichever. Which, by the way, deezer has covered. If you haven’t yet tried the different varieties of Flow, I recommend it.

At any rate, I would suggest giving deezer and Flow a little more time to get to know you.  Obviously, if it doesn't work out, it doesn’t work out.

Thanks for giving deezer a shot.

Basically, the "Super Mix" functions as flow (or any type of "mix"), while the "Discovery" mix is also flow ( and doing Discovery ) , and the "Archive Mix" consists of songs you haven’t listened to in a while.

The Discovery Mix on YTM puts significant effort into finding new music that suits your taste and occasionally introduces something entirely “new” to you and tests the “waters”. In contrast, Deezer often feels like, "here are 50 techno bands with some hip-hop sprinkled in."

The "Replay Mix" is a flow with songs you enjoy listening to ( with some new ).

All these mixes are tailored 100% to your taste through thumbs up/down, listens, and skips. If you skip a song even once, you can see YouTube Music (YTM) adjusting the upcoming tracks.

YTM also offers mixes for different moods and activities, such as Sleep, Chill, Party, and various genre mixes (similar to flow). Additionally, there are personalized mixes, which are essentially what flow is, like the 2010 Metal Mix. Overall, it offers far more customization compared to Deezer, unfortunately.

It feels like Deezer pioneered flow but missed the mark. While flow sounds better on my equipment, it doesn’t help if the recommended music is repetitive, unengaging, or simply bad.

YTM constantly adapts and refines its recommendations. If you skip a song even once, it adjusts the upcoming tracks. It also has options like Sleep, Chill, Party, and all kinds of mood or genre mixes tailored to your tastes. Additionally, you get customized mixes like the 2010 Metal Mix ,Electro 2020 , Tardigrade inferno Rarities , and more based on your listening habbits offering more personalization compared to Deezer.

Sadly, while Deezer sounds great on my equipment ( i got the hardware to hear the difference in quality ), its recommendations often miss the mark, being repetitive or unengaging.

So basically, YTM has taken the concept of Flow and expanded it significantly. That's what I miss from Deezer, which feels so ... I don't know, unresponsive?

Another example, unrelated to my Deezer account, is my girlfriend. She tries hard to adjust her Flow settings (on her profile ). Guess what? She listens mostly to metal and gothic music. And what does Flow recommend her 75-95% of the time? I'll give you a moment to guess... Oldies. It's all oldies, like serious oldies for 70-80+ year-olds, not even remotely rock or metal. It's basically oldies folk festival music.

i dont want todo YTM advertising here but Rather give Deezer valuable Info and comparisions also recouces when i leave this service behind to improve because i kinda like Deezer and how its built but basicly it fails at its ( for me ) core Feature and seemingly most advertised feature which is Flow.

My other comment is in moderating Q soo… yeah..

Idk Supermix doesnt stop ever its like Flow , and most often in flow i also see between 6-12 titles “upcoming” 

I just dont know what i can do anymore to deezer to improve for me neither for my GF i had Roughly 4500-6000 songs Listened to in my Trial time with deezer.

Specially for my GF i even tried to help her Disliking multiple hundred songs and bands flow even started to give her songs from bands she entirely disliked for some reason.

Generally it looked like Deezer took roughly ( for me ) to adjust  4 maybe 5 weeks but didnt get my listening habbits entirely while i even tried to force feed my taste via listening to only imported favourites and bands.

maybe someone could check my Gfs account ( linked profile in my account ) why it only goes for Oldie music on her account i still have 2 weeks trial left and can undo the cancellation till then if it suddenly extremely improves.