Deezer Favourite Tracks Limit of 2000 too small - please increase it!
- November 1, 2017
- 550 replies
- 28335 views
- The OG
- 2981 replies
The most voted idea in our Deezer Community.
We're proud to announce that our favorite tracks limit has been increased to 10,000 tracks!
Thank you all for your patience and support while we worked on the delivery of this immense project. We hope you enjoy marking those songs as favorites now
This should be a gradual rollout to users, so please stay tuned for more details.
I'll be announcing this officially on our community homepage soon, so that you can give us your feedback. Once again, thank you!
550 replies
- Runaway Baby
- 1 reply
- May 1, 2020
Hi,
I have been for nearly 2/3 years a happy Deezer customer for many reasons. Especially with the Flow adapting with the Favourite Tracks and I just reached the limit today of the 2,000…
Just saw that this thread is nearly 2 years old.
Will this issue be really solved in the coming months?
It is an essential feature.
For the moment i’ll work around adding the tracks to another playlist but it is such a shame that the limits has not been lifted already.
Best regards,
Nipst3r
- Alien SuperStar
- 14342 replies
- May 2, 2020
We agreed that this is essential these days
- Lover
- 54 replies
- May 8, 2020
Hi Rob, thanks a lot for your feedback! We know that this is something a lot of users would like to be changed. As for now this limit was implemented for technical reasons, but we will definitely pass this on to the team and I hope this can be changed in the future!
I'd suggest you move some of the tracks from your Favorites to other playlists or just create a second "Favorites" list and just move all tracks to that one. (That's very simple on browser)
Personally, I’m not as concerned about the link to Flow. If the technical reason is because of that and not because of something else, I wish there were maybe even another icon (a musical note?) that denotes whether you’ve favourited it already. The main reason I want it is just so I know whether I already favourited a song or not.
I’ve been using a separate “favourite” playlist for the overflow, but when I look at a song at a glance, I can’t tell whether I’ve already liked it or not (without having to do a search through the favourite playlist. And then if I have more than 2000 in my favourite playlist I’ll have to search 2 playlists, etc.).
I can’t imagine there being a major technical reason if it’s just a list of song ids saved somewhere. A song list of a million songs would probably be barely 8 MB.
Thanks! I finally hit my 2000 favourited song ceiling and this is becoming more relevant!
- Deezer Legend
- 1359 replies
- May 8, 2020
If you have already favorited a song, it will show a red heart icon everywhere if it is in the regular 2k limited Favorites list. If it is in your Favorites overflow playlist or whatever you may call it, you can simply add it there again, because the Deezer app will automatically recognise that it is already in there and not add it twice. The difference to e.g. Spotify in this case is that there is no popup message asking if you would want to add it twice or not. To manually check if it is already added, you would have to use the search input field for the playlist where you only have to put in one specific term, not the whole title.
- Lover
- 54 replies
- May 8, 2020
If you have already favorited a song, it will show a red heart icon everywhere if it is in the regular 2k limited Favorites list. If it is in your Favorites overflow playlist or whatever you may call it, you can simply add it there again, because the Deezer app will automatically recognise that it is already in there and not add it twice. The difference to e.g. Spotify in this case is that there is no popup message asking if you would want to add it twice or not. To manually check if it is already added, you would have to use the search input field for the playlist where you only have to put in one specific term, not the whole title.
Unfortunately, my favourite playlist is also starting to overflow, so it may be in 2 different lists. Good to know, though. I never knew if it added it twice or not.
For what it’s worth, I did create a script that puts all my playlists together, shuffles them, takes out the duplicates, and put them back into 2000 song lists, but I don’t run it often.
- Alien SuperStar
- 14342 replies
- May 11, 2020
Thanks for contributing with your feedback
- Star Wo-Man
- 459 replies
- May 11, 2020
Thank you all for your feedback, much appreciated
A couple of weeks ago I've reached the senior side of our Product teams to talk about this topic once more. Your support isn't and won't be ignored
That means loading more than 2000 favourites a genuine pain in the butt. So our teams are discussing the best way to move forward with this, perhaps changing how things work, instead of putting a lot of pressure on the app itself. It'll take time, but we're aware there's no turning back on this feature - it's clear to be a necessity for our current users. So please bear with us while we progress. Help me out by getting this idea to be the first one to reach 1000 votes
Take a look at code from other companies to know how they manage to do. For people with low-specs phone, launch Deezer lite : without effects, less features, simple design.
For normal Deezer, it can save a cache of the whole library to load faster. Downloading all library seems crazy for storage if we are talking about Hi-Fi quality, just a way to know what songs we have already.
- Tiny Dancer
- 1 reply
- May 17, 2020
As a new sub is was disheartening to learn about the track limit. It is the lowest in the mainstream industry. While I enjoy the service, especially its wider selection of global music and higher bitrates, it is not as feature rich as spotify or as limitless as Spotity or GPM/YT Music. It is hard to ask a user to choose a platform with more limitations and less convenience in exchange for more esoteric music; at some point its not worth it.
Yes there are playlists but from a UX perspective those extra steps to add and listen to playlist songs in lieu of a large favourites list is a big weight in user retention. If management/senior development still haven’t changed their minds after 3 years I am not sure it ever will be on par with competitors.
- Alien SuperStar
- 14342 replies
- May 19, 2020
Fair comments
I disagree with the last part about the 3 years though. Deezer is a streaming service and for that reason, not originally designed for 'music collection'. But recently we've seen a change in user behaviour that supports an increase in favourites, so we're taking on your input and these votes and turn into something that better reflects how you and the rest of our users prefers to enjoy our product we just need to sort some important features and bugs first, and this won't be forgotten
- Tiny Dancer
- 2 replies
- May 26, 2020
I just hit my favorites limit... This shouldn't be a thing...
- Runaway Baby
- 3 replies
- May 28, 2020
Spotify - No Limit
Soundcloud - No Limit
Deezer - 1000/2000
- Runaway Baby
- 3 replies
- May 28, 2020
Reading through this post, I have come to the conclusion that Rudi is just making hollow excuses every few weeks to why they cant fix the problem.
Rudi’s monthly excuse to this thread is that your company can’t fix the problem because of technical issues however, but you have delivered the suggestion to the team.. for two years!!
Your competitors have overcome this problem. So your platform is inferior and your team wont or cant compete?
Sincerely,
Switching to Spotify
- Deezer Legend
- 1359 replies
- May 28, 2020
Well, it took Spotify six years to change this with hardly any staff replies during this time except that only 1% of users would need this feature:
- Tiny Dancer
- 2 replies
- May 28, 2020
Hey Deezer, it’s time to get rid of limits. We wan’t a proper library with no limitation and other bullshit.
Threre’s no excuses ‘bout this one, just make it happen.
- Runaway Baby
- 2 replies
- June 4, 2020
Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.
It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.
I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.
- Lover
- 54 replies
- June 4, 2020
Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.
It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.
I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.
I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.
As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.
My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.
But, they’re keeping mum.
I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.
For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.
- Lover
- 29 replies
- June 4, 2020
Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.
It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.
I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.
I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.
As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.
My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.
But, they’re keeping mum.
I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.
For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.
Sorry for the frustration. I can see where you are coming from. As a frequent music listener, I save over a few thousand songs on a playlist on YouTube. Definitely a far too small limit. From my experience with the Deezer staff, they seem really busy. This is unfortunately, as they also live away from their office without direct communication among staff (which can slow down the process greatly, of course). This post has been labeled “Not For Now”, which makes me suggest that this may be considered at a later time, but I could be wrong. Either way, I am in favor of the idea.
- Lover
- 54 replies
- June 4, 2020
Ah, man, I can’t tell you how disheartening it is to think you’ve finally found a home for your music collection and meticulously hand-crafted genre and mood playlists only to find that it’s a total non-starter because I’m already over the limit for liked tracks and a lot of my playlists are either over or approaching it. I’ve been listening to music for about twenty years, professionally for the last six. It’s not unreasonable to think that I might have come across well over two thousand tracks I like and want to add to a collection in all that time. I’d have to have found less than two new tracks a week over the entirety of my music-listening life to remain under the two thousand limit.
It’s even more disappointing to see that people have been asking for a little over two years now to implement a reasonably simple change only to see that they’ve just been totally fobbed off time and time again and told to use the service in an unnatural and cumbersome way just to get around a bunch of seemingly random limitations. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be - you, as a business, are supposed to listen to what your customers want and adapt your product to suit them if you want their money. You don’t get to take their money and tell them that they’re wrong for wanting to use the service in the way they want to use it.
I was lucky enough to get a three-month free trial and I’m desperate not to hand my money over to Spotify but unless the limits are upped by the beginning of September I don’t really see what other option there is.
I’m far from being an apologist, but my guess is that the “seemingly random limitations” are likely realistic. Spotify dragged its feet on increasing the playlist size for a long time and they have some major developmental resources and deep pockets. I really wish Deezer developers would, in hopes of transparency, explain the technical difficulty if only for us more technical users.
As I mention above somewhere, a playlist is merely a list of ids which are maybe 16 bits per number. You could have a million and barely take up 8MB. That’s not exactly an issue in the time of having petabytes of information whizzing around.
My theory (which I wish they would confirm or deny) is that people’s playlists are pushed into an important for-their bottom-line algorithm. And the algorithm is massively CPU intensive and every track has to re-run it, or something. So it’s not a matter of the size of the lists but what are they _doing_ with the data? It’s really precious data, if you think about it, and if they play their cards right, and get some good AI/machine learning, could do some fun things with it.
But, they’re keeping mum.
I tried to explain that I would use (after I’ve filled up my favourite list, so they’d still get that sweet, juicy data) another sort of way to add a track to some sort of list. And let it be a huge million track list. Some sort of collection that’s merely a list of track ids.
For the love of music, Deezer, tell us what the fuck is going on.
Sorry for the frustration. I can see where you are coming from. As a frequent music listener, I save over a few thousand songs on a playlist on YouTube. Definitely a far too small limit. From my experience with the Deezer staff, they seem really busy. This is unfortunately, as they also live away from their office without direct communication among staff (which can slow down the process greatly, of course). This post has been labeled “Not For Now”, which makes me suggest that this may be considered at a later time, but I could be wrong. Either way, I am in favor of the idea.
Any way they could open source where the issue is and let others help? :D
(It’s a joke).
- Anonymous
- 0 replies
- June 6, 2020
for real its very sad this is very voted and not fixed yet :(
- 1 reply
- June 9, 2020
Hi, I'm that loser that asked you to increase your pathetic limits few months ago. Checked the thread, saw that you couldn't give a rat's ass about your fanboys.Cancelled the HiFi subscription, moved on to YM and that Swedish behemoth. They're not perfect, and sometimes it's painful to use them, but at least they don't insult their users as blatantly as you do with those pathetic limits.
When you fold within the next few months/years, it'll be your own damn fault. I'm all for supporting European businesses (go EU!), but capitalism is a bitch, and you won't survive much longer with such intense competition and the level of incompetence.that you display in this thread.
Best of luck, Deezer. You're gonna need it, until you start listening to your customers.
- Star Wo-Man
- 459 replies
- June 16, 2020
Hi, I'm that loser that asked you to increase your pathetic limits few months ago. Checked the thread, saw that you couldn't give a rat's ass about your fanboys.Cancelled the HiFi subscription, moved on to YM and that Swedish behemoth. They're not perfect, and sometimes it's painful to use them, but at least they don't insult their users as blatantly as you do with those pathetic limits.
When you fold within the next few months/years, it'll be your own damn fault. I'm all for supporting European businesses (go EU!), but capitalism is a bitch, and you won't survive much longer with such intense competition and the level of incompetence.that you display in this thread.
Best of luck, Deezer. You're gonna need it, until you start listening to your customers.
These are no ways to say things. You are inciting hate. Looking your profile: new member, no topics, no discussions. You log in here to give your worst.
As I said in other post, Deezer doesn’t have the same economic resources and staff than others, so it takes more time for them. But things arrive, like HiFi, dark mode, Waze integration, lyrics and more coming.
- Tiny Dancer
- 4 replies
- June 24, 2020
Well, it took Spotify six years to change this with hardly any staff replies during this time except that only 1% of users would need this feature:
Deezer is an year older than spotify.
But I was using spotify and was really exiting with new unlimited favorite tracks, but after 8k ones the app begins to crash, start to slow down and not show all the tracks.
Well, than I come back to Deezer.
- Alien SuperStar
- 14342 replies
- June 25, 2020
Thanks for sharing with us
But coming back to the subject, we'll definitely explore this. One of the major concerns is surely the performance of the app on your side, especially for users with a lower end model for a phone.
This is a huge topic so we hope to get it tackled this year, at least to have an idea on how to proceed
- Tiny Dancer
- 15 replies
- June 29, 2020
Hey
I’m very thankful for your help with managing Deezer’s flow and its recommendations. They’re way better than before!.
I also must admit, I agree with topic-writers: I need 2k favs too, because I’m EASILY reaching this limit. My OFFLINE playlist reaches 16k tracks and I try to mark ‘em here, in my Deezer Account. It is 14 years of non-stop searching of great music. I’m really tired to look for something new, knowing that Deezer doesn’t know all of my tastes and suggests me things I already know or heard. The only exit is looking for charts and new releases every day or look back to my offline playlist with every song I'm finding. If there was a mark “favourite” for my every favourited song, the search for music weren’t that hard with Dezzer.
I would like also to have a feature to mark songs as "disliked" to not stumble upon songs I really dislike and see them as disliked in playlists or albums.
It’s hard to recognize tracks I already have in my playlists if they’re not marked as “favourited”.
- Chart topper
- 2597 replies
- June 29, 2020
It was on Google Music for 1000 songs… made it to work adding only 10 out of 10 songs. Or at least 7 out of 10. Likes for anything else, and own playlist for a genre. I think for me 2000 is huge for less than 500 songs lists. I mean I would like to see improvement too, but right now YTM offers 5000.
But let me say it YTM no more, too bad service, slow, less music.
Likes should be unlimited, but I am happy for now with what it offers.
For some it may reach fast, especially if you curate one list for all.
Google shuts down play music in 2020 by the end, I was forced to YTM, but didn’t like it. Actually wouldn’t recommend it to anyone… For me 2000 limits are improvement.
However I’ll reveal you Deezer. I am a huge fan of liking music, so it is probably 5000+ on GPM. Couldn’t even see all of them. Will happen here too, but we will see what happens.
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