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Leonídia.Deezer
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Hi @jeremybonan unfortunately, we don’t have more updates than the ones I shared with you in the last post. 

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Well there are some stories about AirPlay 2 (finally) coming to Spotify… see: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/spotify-calls-off-plans-to-support-airplay-2-frustrating-iphone-users/

 

What’s your plan Deezer?

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Hi @Leonídia.Deezer 

There was no news in your last post really, only supposed steps to work around AirPlay issue. 
Is AirPlay 2 support finally on the development roadmap for Deezer ? Do you have a timeline ?

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Hello everyone, @Kevin Deezer @GuillaumeDZ ,

Hope everyone is well.

Deezer support (France) told me (along a question on the new Deezer Family Hifi Offer) that full AirPlay 2 support was delayed due to ongoing negotiation (licensing?) with Apple. Do you confirm?

Any ETA on enhanced buffering? (Will be a must have feature with HiFi streaming coming on.

Best,

Jeremy

Would anyone clarify on this one? Are there any licensing issues? What’s the plan? @Rudi I’m betting it all on you!

J
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Hello @Kevin Deezer Trying my luck on this. Best.

BigFKahuna
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My understanding is that Airplay 2 can possibly support lossless, yet in many instances it does not and further will not tell you if it indeed is steaming lossless. That is to say, Airplay 2 “can”, but not necessarily “will”, if that makes sense.

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It would have been expected in a major release. Version 10 milestone and not AirPlay 2 in sight. 
I can live with the new design but best-in-class streaming experience with speakers should be a no brainer for a music app. 

J
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I dis not know Tidal did it. 
Do you know if the desktop app is Electron based? 
That would bring hope for Deezer to be on par. 

BigFKahuna
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It would have been expected in a major release. Version 10 milestone and not AirPlay 2 in sight. 
I can live with the new design but best-in-class streaming experience with speakers should be a no brainer for a music app. 

If Airplay 2 is world class, should it not be able to support streaming of at least CD quality music? Every indication is that at this point it does not. I prefer to live with the 2 second buffer in Airply 1 until the issue of music quality is resolved in Airplay 2.

BigFKahuna
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Hi @BigFKahuna 

I have never read anything like this about airplay 2. The specs state that it takes the very sound file in the buffer in various format, bitrate and sampling… and thus can do better that CD quality. But I am interested to read otherwise. 

BigFKahuna
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Hi @BigFKahuna 

I have never read anything like this about airplay 2. The specs state that it takes the very sound file in the buffer in various format, bitrate and sampling… and thus can do better that CD quality. But I am interested to read otherwise. 

https://darko.audio/2023/10/apple-airplay-isnt-always-lossless-sometimes-its-lossy/

If I read this article correctly, I need an app such as Deezer (Airplay 1) to support the transmission of CD quality streams in my iPhone13 to KEF LS60 system.

BigFKahuna
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Hi @BigFKahuna,

Got to read your article.

That’s interesting.

But as far as I understand, AirPlay 2 is really supposed to support all formats without transcoding (either upsampling or downsampling), as exposed by Apple during WWDC when it was released.

However, I don’t know what is refraining Music apps to use it properly (legal issues? technical issues?). During the last WWDC, it appears that Apple had updated the way it can deal with third party DRM.

 

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What do  you think? @Kevin Deezer @GuillaumeDZ @Rudi 

J
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and @Flo (it would be really nice to have you in this conversation and get some insights. Thanks a lot for the good work, (iOS) Deezer is virtually the app I use most).

J
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Trying my luck here, any update on AirPlay 2? With all the HiFi fuzz coming from all around the world, it’s a must have?

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BigFKahuna
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Having tried Deezer’s remote feature with frustrating and limited success, I upgraded to a Bluesound Node 2021. The Bluesound app for Deezer is OK, but missing a few features and has a 2000 limit on my favourites playlist, of which I have over 4200 songs. However the internal DAC is better than what I had previously and, with regards to this topic, the Airply 2 works very well for me. Yes, there is a slight latency in response but not enough to bother anyone that listens to my music and the Airplay feature allows my to stream directly from my Deezer app. No latency would be better, but I not an issue when I focus on the quality of music selection and playback.

BigFKahuna
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Hello @Kevin Deezer ,

Thanks for your reply.

Seriously, now that you have started to curate more the music available for each artist (you can do even better), the only things missing to make Deezer perfect is complete AirPlay 2 support and a HiFi option for the family plan. If you manage to be on time for Devialet’s upcoming AirPlay 2 speakers updates you’ll be blessed.

In a previous update on iOS it read that you had implemented AAC (v. 8.4.0 “Test playing M4A files [playback]”), do you intend to change the music codec from MP3 to AAC?

Thanks

 

Jeremy

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