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shuffle isn't RANDOM... it always repeats a pattern of songs


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random isn't patterns !!!
pls fix !!!!!!
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Best answer by Rafael. 22 July 2019, 12:45

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random isn't patterns !!!
pls fix !!!!!!

YES, This got to be corrected., PLEASE

I suffer the same problem

Shuffle does not shuffle

It always plays the same songs with the same order.

I hate it.

Fix it asap

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Having given up on the idiotic Flow - refer other threads - I gave Shuffle another go the last day or so after abandoning it a while back.

Well, all I can say is that I’m glad I have R.E.M., Joni Mitchell and Neil Young in my 199 artist list. Because that’s about all I get from  the misnamed “Shuffle” feature.

Do you guys know that the word “shuffle” means “to rearrange things in a random or pseudo-random order”?

It doesn’t mean “play songs from artists who belong to labels that pay Deezer a higher fee”.

Out of the nearly 200 artists in my artist list, I hear songs from about 10, maybe 15 artists and about 5% of their catalogue. That’s a very small song sample for a feature called “Shuffle”.

Eg:

How can I hear three R.E.M. songs IN SUCCESSION? How can I hear the SAME Joni Mitchell song (“Coyote”) EVERY TIME I play Shuffle? How can I hear the same R.E.M. song (“Radio Song”) three times in an hour?

Please fire your developers. They clearly don’t have a clue what they’re doing to get BOTH Flow AND Shuffle so wrong.

Many, many people in this Community are TELLING YOU that these features do not work how we want them to work. You provide the standard “thanks for your feedback” and “we’ll pass it along to our developers”, yet YEARS go by without ANY improvement. (Those Universal Music Group fees are just too hard to ignore, aren’t they?)

I give up, Deezer. My annual subscription runs out in a few weeks and I think I’ll try Spotify or go back to Tidal.

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yeah , many thanks.. but then again :

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with a big enough playlist - songs in a playlist - Shuffle (which i think is based on the idiot idea of 'what you listened to most' ) builds itself ... by Playing always same songs gives 'rank'(priority) to same songs (whatever your preferences are, songs are ordered by AI )

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the other 2 options of listening a playlist:
add order and reverse add order (...... for both there's always an order of playing the songs )

so if i create a playlist (considering it's done by me i like All its contents) how can i listen to them songs without listening always same song order . wait for hours to get to its end? click next 300 times? start today and listen to it tomorrow?


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Yes,  I was just thinking about this… I want my playlist to automatically shuffle for anyone who happens to listen to it, instead of it playing in the order songs were added.. Please make this happen :wink:

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Sorry you feel that way @11_Rose_18 thank you for your support so far!

It depends on each platform (about the fix). Are you experiencing the same shuffle in which feature and in which app? Please help us tailor your feedback so that it's more effective here at Deezer :thumbsup_tone2:

It’s when I play my own playlists either by asking my Google Mini and requesting it be shuffled or if I use the desktop player and click the shuffle. It makes no difference, they both behave the same way and play the songs in the same “shuffled order” every time. And I do currently have a subscription so that makes no difference either. It’s highly annoying as I really want a totally random shuffle. 

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Shuffling playlists for me it actually works well, yay!

Flow and daily works, yay!

Trackmixes is where the problem is.

I do feel the same, like FLOW shuffle is a bit lousy, it often plays too much tracks I already like.

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Again, it’s not only on the Google device, though. It also happens the same way when I just use the web player directly from the Deezer site on my computer. So it’s on your end, not Google’s. It’s been like this for years. How long can it take? Anyway, hope it is resolved soon, as I said, or I will be switching to Spotify. And that would be a shame because I do prefer this service. Thanks.

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Why does the shuffle feature get stuck on the same songs or genre of songs. Shuffle should be random songs in your favorites playlist right??? I download so many songs and i never get to hear all my list. I do pay for the premium service. Please fix or im jumping to apple music 

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Thank you for your detailed feedback @Steve C 

I've now forwarded every word of it because we shouldn't turn our back to this feature's criticism. I understand your points and I'm sincerely sorry for the experience you've had with the shuffle mode and with Flow.

Deezer has put all hands together and we've recently decided we're going back to basics. This is something discussed at length internally, so I'm sharing a bit with you, exclusively.

We'll be putting our efforts into getting our player to work as a player should be. Efficient, reliable, and with the ability to connect to different devices and sources. This has been the feedback from the community for a couple of years now. So it's time to get our resources together and get some of these essential features right. That's what we aim to deliver in 2021.

So I invite you, perhaps without paying for a subscription, to check back with us around the first quarter of the next year, to see where we're at in terms of improvement and development. I'm unable to share deadlines and other plans we have, but I can assure you that the commitment is great. Deezer is the underdog in the streaming market, and for this reason, everyone here is passionate about you, users, and music. So we'll keep working to get to the next level. Trust me, I've been here for a few years and there are only better things to come :v_tone2:

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@Rudi Goodreply, Rudi, but it might be too-little-too-late for me and some others here.

Yes, please do get “back to basics”: “Shuffle” implies “Random” to most people, I think. And if you’re truly wading through users’ catalogues, you might still get some statistical issues such as song repeats or the same artist in a row but that should be very minor compared to what happens now. It shouldn’t be too difficult to come up with something that works much better. (Refer to my previous posts about smart cataloging of songs with on a short ID based on artist/song/album.)

With Flow, you can mix in other material as the current description says, just don’t do weird/annoying  things like play me a Whitney Houston or Jay Z or Bryan Adams track if I don’t have anything resembling them in my lists (which I don’t).

Good luck!

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Am very close to moving over to Spotify because of this. I want the shuffle to actually be random. There’s no use to it if it just plays the same songs in the same order always. Seems many have complained about this for a long time now & yet it hasn’t been fixed. It’s a deal-breaker for me. 
Thanks.

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Shuffle My Music ... does not include artists who have been favourited in your library

What?? Seriously?? Your whole artist catalogue is IGNORED when shuffling music??

What genius decided that that was a good idea?

That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard since someone told me that Donald Trump would make a good president.

OF COURSE, shuffling music should include the artists you’ve added to your favourites. That is bleeding obvious.

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That, for the time being, can be an excellent workaround, @386cz please keep it up and share more of your Deezer findings with us :thumbsup_tone2:

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Shuffle My Music ... does not include artists who have been favourited in your library

What?? Seriously?? Your whole artist catalogue is IGNORED when shuffling music??

What genius decided that that was a good idea?

That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard since someone told me that Donald Trump would make a good president.

OF COURSE, shuffling music should include the artists you’ve added to your favourites. That is bleeding obvious.

Hi there, it’s a music service, not the key to ending world hunger. Keep some perspective, relax and perhaps be a bit more polite. Everyone at Deezer is working super hard to please us.

I’ve only been a member for 5 months and all I can say is: good luck getting Apple or Spotify to listen to individual users and implement their feature requests and improvements.

Thanks for the feedback @seaan 

Fair point! Could you please let us know in what device and app feature you're experiencing this?

Hi,

I have a playlist I am listening to while running on my mobile.

I just play that playlist using the “random” option: the playlist contains 90+ songs.

Unfortunately, in order for this feedback to be complete I should provide more comprehensive statistics. I’m going to monitor more closely the playing patterns of that playlist and report back

 

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Thanks for the feedback @seaan 

Fair point! Could you please let us know in what device and app feature you're experiencing this?

Hi,

I have a playlist I am listening to while running on my mobile.

I just play that playlist using the “random” option: the playlist contains 90+ songs.

Unfortunately, in order for this feedback to be complete I should provide more comprehensive statistics. I’m going to monitor more closely the playing patterns of that playlist and report back

Your feedback is really valuable for Deezer to improve.

They are navigating and collecting it here, so keep posting. I do that posting too.

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Sorry again @11_Rose_18 I didn't mean it was happening only on Google devices. I was just glad to know you could specify where you noticed the issue. And to fix it for Google devices, it'll take longer than usual.

It's definitely on our end and I've already mentioned it to our devs :thumbsup_tone2:

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Very valuable indeed @seaan really appreciate the tests you're carrying out, that's the only way we can improve - with the support of our users :thumbsup_tone2:

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Pretty sure FLOW does the same thing, it's not random at all and is beginning to annoy even though I like most of the song it plays.

I’ve been a Deezer Premium user for about two months and overall I like it but I can’t but second this tread’s general opinion that the Shuffle feature is not working as expected. Actually it just sucks

I’m using on my own list of favorites while jogging, initially I thought the list was still too short (~80 songs as I was transitioning from the lousy Youtube Music) but now I’ve got around triple that size and I’m still presented with the 10 or 20 songs I’ve added in the beginning.

You should really fix it.

Thanks

Hi, 

I have a similar experience that neither shuffle nor flow is good at sampling from a large range of songs.  

The “daily” lists are the same every day---that doesn’t seem to make much sense, either. 

Moreover, the order of a shuffled list appears the same every time (it wouldn’t be a very good thing if you would shuffle a deck of playing cards this way).  

These effects are especially strong on Google Home music infrastructure, in fact, the “shuffle” icon disappears immediately once you cast the playlist to the Google Home, so I guess that that infrastructure doesn’t have native shuffling.  And when your playlist is already in “shuffled” order, it is in always the same (shuffled) order.  You would want shuffling to take shuffling seriously, and shuffle the list at runtime in a different order with uniform prior over the songs, each time you switch to shuffled mode.  Every programming environment has access to a reasonably good random number generator that can be initialized with a unique seed.  

 

I think shuffle is generate only one time and it will remain the same, as long as you still play the same album or playlist.

If you want to re-shuffle, play a song that is not in the playlist. then get back to the playlist and play again.

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It'll get some serious improvements this year @bremg :sunglasses: stay tuned, and for now, thank you for your feedback!

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Sorry you feel that way @11_Rose_18 thank you for your support so far!

It depends on each platform (about the fix). Are you experiencing the same shuffle in which feature and in which app? Please help us tailor your feedback so that it's more effective here at Deezer :thumbsup_tone2:

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