Deezer Flac vs Tidal FLAC - Sound Quality Comparison

  • 8 October 2018
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Hi,

I've been listening to Deezer FLAC and Tidal FLAC for some time now and been comparing them on a PC with Dragonfly Red, Magni 3 and Sennheiser HD 650 setup. I've also tried the V-Moda Crossfade II Wireless for reference cans. The thing is I can't shake the feeling that Tidal FLAC (Not MQA) is a lot cleaner, balanced, spacious and detailed as compared to the Deezer FLAC. So I am thinking, is it just me or are others out there who can concur?

I mea I really like Deezer for its innovative app design and features... But shouldn't sound quality be the same or is Deezer's source NOT true FLAC or an upscaled MP3? Is my system doing something to make Deezer Flac sound more like a 320 mp3 when compared to Tidal FLAC. The important part is WHY?? Love to hear the community's thoughts on this...

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See also this related thread:

https://en.deezercommunity.com/other-devices-49/deezer-hifi-over-apple-airplay-desktop-app-4-0-5-13-is-not-lossless-to-my-ears-comparison-test-24461#post67632
I heard that in first moment - no solution is here about that - but my ears obviously tells me TIDAL has better deep dynamic.
Deezer vs Tidal, the detialed comparison between sound quality, HiFi, price, etc. is a large task. But as for me, I think Deezer music quality is the same as Tidal's.
Besides, when making a comparison, please make sure you are using the same lever subscription. Tidal has Premium and HiFi. Deezer has the Premium.
So just using Premium sound quality to make a detailed comparion. That's all things.
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Hi there @Annie_Yazbeck

Thank you for your support. We do have HiFi too ūüėÖ
Hi Rudi,
Everything works fine for me, but please help me understand the Hi Fi availability with my setup;
My setup is;
Samsung QLED TV (2018)
connected to my professional RME DAC via tos link(optical) cable
and my DAC to my amplifier. Meaning, Digital to Analog conversion is not on Samsung TV side.

What is not clear to me is;
1- Am I listening hi fi / lossless when using the Deezer app on Samsung QLED TV (2018)? If yes, it means the app is downloading the music at high resolution when possible, and sending it to DAC directly and digitally without any conversion, right?

2- I also sometimes use my mobile (iPhone) to select the songs and airplay it to Samsung TV. In this case, am I loosing sound quality either during airplay ( sending digital data from phone to tV) or during processing of data in TV? )

Thanks in Advance
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Hey@Gokhan 

Found your reply on another topic and replied to it. Thank you for your patience.

Looking at the waveforms, I’d say Deezer are simply upscaling a 320KBPs MP3 and ripping people off

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Looking at the waveforms, I’d say Deezer are simply upscaling a 320KBPs MP3 and ripping people off


This is interesting, can you share more details and such? I would like to know more.

Is there any good way to record stream from Deezer and Tidal and etc, then compare them?

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Appreciate your observation @Summy but the FLAC files that form part of our HiFi catalogue and not the Premium/Family catalogue (MP3) come directly from the labels and distributors, hence why it costs more as they're the ones influencing the price of the content.

Playback, not streaming, is subject to device and compatibility. I trust this clarifies the matter :v_tone2:

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Apparently flacs are not just flacs

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0716/Why_Do_WAV_And_FLAC_Files_Sound_Different2.htm

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It's always an interesting discussion @Tournesol, thanks for adding your findings here too :relaxed:

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Use your ears to determine which is best for you.

Hifi can be CD, but if you listen on laptop speakers, you better buy high end.

I am extremely pleased with Deezer Premium HQ 320K. The bass is stunning on right device.

After summer I will have deezer Hifi family just to share the love of the music you know.

I hope to taste Hifi quality out to determine is it worth it for me.

With my current headphones in repair I do not think FLAC is to benefit as I listen with them on laptop 99% anyways and it uses lower Bluetooth codec than LDAC which is SBC codec I think?

All laptops has SBC codec Bluetooth max 328K sound.

Hifi on Bluetooth is not possible, so you may need anything else, probably wire.

Thanks for your detailed info of Deezer FLAC and Tidal FLAC. For both two music streaming services, I also learned more from the post: Deezer vs Tidal. If you are interested, you can check it out and learn more. Hope all of us can enjoy music we like.:wink:

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Great to share this with us @Bawill I guess everyone has to weight up their options and decide what's best.

Our HiFi will surely get better soon, with more value to offer our users. Stay tuned to the community for more info :wink:

Hi,

I've been listening to Deezer FLAC and Tidal FLAC for some time now and been comparing them on a PC with Dragonfly Red, Magni 3 and Sennheiser HD 650 setup. I've also tried the V-Moda Crossfade II Wireless for reference cans. The thing is I can't shake the feeling that Tidal FLAC (Not MQA) is a lot cleaner, balanced, spacious and detailed as compared to the Deezer FLAC. So I am thinking, is it just me or are others out there who can concur?

I mea I really like Deezer for its innovative app design and features... But shouldn't sound quality be the same or is Deezer's source NOT true FLAC or an upscaled MP3? Is my system doing something to make Deezer Flac sound more like a 320 mp3 when compared to Tidal FLAC. The important part is WHY?? Love to hear the community's thoughts on this...

Interesting because I have been comparing Tidal FLAC with Deezer HiFi and came to the opposite conclusion, Deezer HiFi was more accurate than Tidal. I was using an Arcam ST60 streamer and did find I needed to be careful which DAC filtering I selected, preferring the Linear Phase Fast Roll Off filter for Deezer.

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Thanks for sharing that with us @iantha.kirkup super cool to see how it performs in difference devices :sunglasses:

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