352.8 khz and MQA titles on Deezer.

  • 19 November 2020
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Using Deezer Hifi because of my Highend equipment I was very amazed when I was streaming some albums from the 2L label,  mostly classical and choir. Normally it's the usual 44.1khz but suddenly... 352.8 khz!  And also MQA !! . Switching back and wordward to other albums( checking  the system wasn't cunfused) every 2L album gave the same highend results.

Dear Deezer,  what's going on???  

Thank

Jakob 


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Here’s another one and I can confirm, that the above album is indeed MQA.

 

Playback system:

BlueSound Node 2i coax output to

Lyngdorf TDAI 2200 RoomPerfect Amp

Lyngdorf SDA 2400 Amp

Lyngdorf DP1 + BW1 Speakers 

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Hi Mark. 

Very Nice system!  Beautiful Lyngdorf stuff. 

And indeed MQA!  but also 352.8kHz! 

Many albums of the label 2L are in that same format.  

I still have no answer from Deezer how this is possible,  but nice it is!  

Thanks

Jakob 

 

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It must be a Flac indeed since it loads reasonable quickly. 

I'm gonna search for that fairytale now. 😀

Have a nice weekend!  

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Another nice one in 352.8 khz MQA 

 

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Topic :  List of MQA titles on Deezer

 

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Found another one!  


Hi Jakob,

The MQA logo and sampling freq. on the notification bar is put there by the Deezer app?

If so, is the OS IOS or Android?

If not, what app is doing that?

Hi Jof

The MQA logo and samp freq are put there by the device.  Deezer is offering the service of of hi-res albums compressed with MQA tech, but you need a DAC with firmware that is capable of unfolding MQA files,  in this case with a samp freq of pcm 352.8 kHz  FLAC . Your device/ DAC also has to be capable to handle pcm up to 352.8kHz . If your device is capable of both,  you can download several apps that will show the MQA logo and ( like the " USB audio PRO" app)  also shows the freq. 

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Hello Jof. 

USB audio Pro doesn't support Deezer. 

I think they do not know that Deezer has hi-res music. 

I don't need USB audio Pro necessarily to stream music from Deezer. 

My device ( Fiio M11Pro ) allways shows the sample Freq and - when present- MQA. 

The Fiio connected to my masterclock ( playing Deezer)  gives a very high-end sound that - in my opinion - even betters Tidal and Qobuz. 

Everybody is yelling MQA!  MQA!  

The story is that MQA is lossless,  but it isn't. In my opinion MQA is a little bit to late. 10 years ago it would be top. 

Nowadays we can stream and store immense files and compression is not necessarily needed anymore. 

Don't stare yourself blind on sample freqenties and bits. Music stands or fall by the recording and mastering. 

A recording from ECM f.i on 16bit/ 44 khz sounds most of time far better than the usual recordings. 

16 bits is more than enough headroom and 96kHz more than fantastic in your room. 

Regards Jakob 

Hi Jakob,

So this image I’m attaching (previousy shared by you) is from your Fiio M11 Pro?

If so, is it from its built-in music player?

Regards,

Jo

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Hmm… so it’s only available on mobile devices with certain DACs connected to them? I don’t see this functionality on a desktop, and even if the files were indeed different from our standard FLACs that would necessitate bit and resolution mode switching from Deezer app itself, which it doesn’t do. Does that mean that mobile apps have a different way to pass the audio, bypassing the native decoders and just dumping the stream over to the DAC which would automagically select the correct mode for playback? Hmm…

All in all I would prefer either more hi-res (but still standard) FLACs and/or DSD. Both are open-source, standard, lossless, and perform quite well. Along with mode switching for whatever audio hardware you’re using. The concept works quite well in Swinsian app on macos: https://swinsian.com 

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Hi Jakob,

So this image I’m attaching (previousy shared by you) is from your Fiio M11 Pro?

If so, is it from its built-in music player?

Regards,

Jo

Hallo Jof

This picture is not mine, that's from Mark Percy 

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What I find wrong in all of this, is that the official Deezer representatives don’t have any idea about what’s going on. It’s like their developer side and, worse yet, planning side, is a black box that is completely out of their reach. You’d think that Rudi and Jamie would be the first to know and announce that but no, it’s the users.

Not blaming Rudi or Jamie, of course, but it does makes one wonder exactly why Deezer chose such a weird totally non-transparent multi-layered development and management model. What elusive purpose does that serve… Maybe just trying to outdo Apple in the secrecy department.

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Found another one!  

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This is the Label I'm talking about

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Hi Mark. 

Very Nice system!  Beautiful Lyngdorf stuff. 

And indeed MQA!  but also 352.8kHz! 

Many albums of the label 2L are in that same format.  

I still have no answer from Deezer how this is possible,  but nice it is!  

Thanks

Jakob 

 

Hi Jakob,

Thank you very much. Your system is also very nice!

If memory serves me right, Deezer some time ago joined the MQA partnership. I think the MQA is packed inside a FLAC file, which can be unpacked by MQA enabled DAC’s. That,in theory, explains why it’s possible to stream MQA from Deezer, although it’s not official supported (yet?).

 I’m shure there’s a way better explanation if one do a search...

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And another - not surprising since mqa is in the title.

It would be nice if the search supported something like file:”mqa” like the possibilty to search for labels label:”2L"

 

 

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Thanks Rudi. 

I'm pleased with this nice surprise,  it's real high-end and far better than what Tidal and Qobuz are offering!!  

Greets Jakob 

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Its quiet at Deezer's 

Time for Christmas Carols  😃 ?

Still no idea about the Hi-res items on Deezer?  

Greetz Jakob 

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No problem!  

For those who are interested 

See pics for more MQA 352.8 kHz titles 

 

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Yes you're right 

See my list of MQA music here on Deezer. 

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Hello Rudi 

I made a list already 

You can find it on related topics : 

" List of MQA titles on Deezer " 

 

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Hey @JakobG 

Thanks a lot for that!

Can you perhaps make a playlist of all the titles? I'd like to share that further with our devs :wink:

Hello Rudi 

I made a list already 

You can find it on related topics : 

" List of MQA titles on Deezer " 

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Two other ones

 

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Hey @JakobG 

Thank you! I've seen it.

But I was thinking more of a playlist, with the Deezer links. Is that something you can do? By adding the titles to a public playlist? :eyes:

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Hey @JakobG 

Thank you! I've seen it.

But I was thinking more of a playlist, with the Deezer links. Is that something you can do? By adding the titles to a public playlist? :eyes:

 

I have my own MQA playlist already but can't find the option to make it public 

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