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Finding MQA Titles

  • 30 October 2017
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Rumor has it that there are MQA encoded material in Deezer. is that True, and if so, how can I find it? I tried searching using MQA, but no luck
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Best answer by Anja 3 November 2017, 09:53

@HelpfulDad We are looking into MQA support 😉 We can't give any information right now, but keep your eyes peeled! We'll let you know as soon as there are updates! 😊
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Hi
Deezer has HiFi plan (Which called "Elite") but this plan is available only for a specific speakers (i.e SONOS). If you have SONOS you can subscribe to that plan.

You can find more information here :

https://www.deezer.com/en/offers/hifi
Not sure what this reply means? I'm aware of the subscription I have, but I'm asking if any of the content is MQA encoded and, if so, how to find it. Or is MQA content on Deezer just a rumor?
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Not sure what this reply means? I'm aware of the subscription I have, but I'm asking if any of the content is MQA encoded and, if so, how to find it. Or is MQA content on Deezer just a rumor?

As much as I know no MQA is available on Deezer . I think the only service that support it is Tidal .
Not sure what this reply means? I'm aware of the subscription I have, but I'm asking if any of the content is MQA encoded and, if so, how to find it. Or is MQA content on Deezer just a rumor?

As much as I know no MQA is available on Deezer . I think the only service that support it is Tidal .


Hi!
When is that exclusivity going to end with SONOS??? My system is much more capable but streaming is the only missing component and i prefer Deezer's wider selection and user interface over Tidal's.

Date or date ranges will do ;-)

Thank you,
Edgar
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Hi!
When is that exclusivity going to end with SONOS??? My system is much more capable but streaming is the only missing component and i prefer Deezer's wider selection and user interface over Tidal's.

Date or date ranges will do ;-)

Thank you,
Edgar


Hi @Edgar Lazarev That's a great question and I am sure other users can help you or are interested to know the answer as well. I suggest you create a new topic in our "Troubleshooting & tips" forum. 🤓
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@HelpfulDad We are looking into MQA support 😉 We can't give any information right now, but keep your eyes peeled! We'll let you know as soon as there are updates! 😊
no MQA but I've spotted some hi-res ones at 24bit / 48 (or 44.1) kHz

e.g. http://www.deezer.com/track/127666671
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no MQA but I've spotted some hi-res ones at 24bit / 48 (or 44.1) kHz

e.g. http://www.deezer.com/track/127666671

Interesting. How do you determine the track format? I can't find a way to show track format details using the new beta desktop player (Windows) or with the BlueOS controller.
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no MQA but I've spotted some hi-res ones at 24bit / 48 (or 44.1) kHz

e.g. http://www.deezer.com/track/127666671

This does seem to have a higher than normal bitrate (I'm seeing something something like 1000-1100kbps on my router). But still I think it is just 16/44 or16/48 flac. If you are sure that it is 24-bit I would really like to know.

no MQA but I've spotted some hi-res ones at 24bit / 48 (or 44.1) kHz

e.g. http://www.deezer.com/track/127666671
Interesting. How do you determine the track format? I can't find a way to show track format details using the new beta desktop player (Windows) or with the BlueOS controller.


Hi,

I didn't manage to get this info from the desktop app either.
But you can look at the logs from the BluOS device (in my case Node2)

from the app
Menu > Help > Diagnostics > More > ... scroll down to the 'log' section and look for "ms.pl StreaMCodec ..... bitrate=xxxxxxx 4410/16/2"

from a webbrowser
http://192.168.0.114/diag?print=1
and look for the same thing e.g.

code:
user.info ./ms.pl: StreamCodec::_scanStreamChunk StreamCodec.pm (1694) flc: bitrate=1695659: 44100/24/2
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But you can look at the logs from the BluOS device (in my case Node2)



Thanks! I will try that. How are you discovering the tracks that have greater bit depth?
I've just found by chance that some of them were labelled "HR" as opposed to "HiFi".

I don't know of any other trick that would list all of the albums that are "Hi quality"-ready, unlike TIDAL's Master section. But TIDAL actually advertized their MQA feature whereas Deezer never officially mentionned the existance of tracks with a higher sampling rate (48000) and/or bit-depth (24)
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I've just found by chance that some of them were labelled "HR" as opposed to "HiFi".
Thanks. I will do some browsing with BluOS to see if I can find stuff labeled "HR" and then look at the log.
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I've just found by chance that some of them were labelled "HR" as opposed to "HiFi".

I don't know of any other trick that would list all of the albums that are "Hi quality"-ready, unlike TIDAL's Master section. But TIDAL actually advertized their MQA feature whereas Deezer never officially mentionned the existance of tracks with a higher sampling rate (48000) and/or bit-depth (24)


It seems I am not getting the same stream that you are. My BluOS diagnostics log shows 44100/16/2 when I play that track. Also, it is labeled "HIFI" not "HR".

I will keep looking for tracks labeled "HR" though.
you are right, they changed this album back to "HiFi" for some reasons...

Here's another HR one
https://www.deezer.com/en/track/135324986
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Yes indeed - for this track I am getting the "HR" icon and it is showing 44100/24/2 in the BluOS log! Thanks for this info.
Does the partnership have a deezer with MQA?
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@rubailsm1992 Just moved your question to this existing topic. Not yet I'm afraid, but we'll let everyone know once there's an update 🙂
Hi,
Not sure where to start , first of all Deezer is such a big company isn't ? So what's the hold up exactly to offer a high end quality to your subscribers ? When I had a look to the mqa.com website it seems that Deezer have striked a partnership with them to offer MQA but until now we have no clear roadmap when it will hit the platform --------->(Following major partnership unveilings at IFA technology show in Berlin, MQA is announcing a key new agreement with global music streaming platform Deezer. The Deezer partnership will significantly expand MQA’s music offering and audience reach.)

Also I did notice that there's lot work to be done to make the sound quality punchier as Tidal. I'm hoping next year hopefully we can see some good improvement and MQA announcement .
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Tidal's hi-res Masters (MQA) tracks surpass one million

https://www.whathifi.com/news/tidals-hi-res-masters-tracks-surpass-one-million

Article on what hifi website fyi.

C'mon Deezer it's been promised for a while keep working hard!!!
Here's to hoping that Deezer will not join the scam of MQA
Advertised as 24/96-192-352 fact is that max (real) resolution is 17 bits 48 kHz
So Deezer please don't mislead Your subscribers
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Amazon has released its true HD quality streaming...
Tidal has it for a long time.

The rest of services will follow soon now that a major company is doing it

time to hurry Deezer

Tidal has it for a long time.


Actually Tidal has never had HiRes, the MQA format is lossless.
The CEO of MQA has stated that MQA at best is 15.85 bits 48 kHz (I know, he's an engineer)

But no HiRes on Tidal

For more info: https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/
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Our music catalogue has over 56 million tracks and 52 million are actually FLAC. We're also working on making our HiFi plan available on more devices! :)
I'll leave you to think about another service which has similar numbers 😉
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Tidal has it for a long time.

 


Actually Tidal has never had HiRes, the MQA format is lossless.
The CEO of MQA has stated that MQA at best is 15.85 bits 48 kHz (I know, he's an engineer)

But no HiRes on Tidal

For more info: https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/

 

MQA is not a lossless format, but everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a lossy format like MP3 or AAC. The fact that it is a remaster of a song or a new recording altogether means that you get a better sound, but not objectively, because MQA is all about remaster and new records. But please if you have a good equipment then use DSD encoding, it will make much more sense then MQA does. But i highly doubt that we will ever gonna have a streaming service streaming in DSD because of the high bandwidth it requires. So this format only applies to purchased SACD’s or bought songs from hdtracks, etc.

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